Preflop Squeezing (part 2)

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Preflop Squeezing (part 2)

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Cameron Couch

POSTED Dec 03, 2015

Cameron concludes his series focusing on squeezing pre flop with more examples of spots from recent sessions.

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twinskat 9 years, 3 months ago

You mention not wanting to "squeeze out the fun players during the first hand ..."

What if you are playing live, and it seems "All the players are 'fun players' " ? If the players are bad enough all around the table, do you just stop squeezing IP ?

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Cameron Couch 9 years, 3 months ago

Versus players whom we have diminished fold-equity against (both pre and post), we should opt to linearise our 3b + squeezing ranges. There is simply more value in having an equity advantage vs their range and being able to go for three streets with strong TP type hands. Consider foregoing the more 'speculative' squeezes as these hands do require fold-equity, and obviously considerations such as board-coverage etc aren't relevant in such games.

Insilicio 9 years, 3 months ago

I watched multiple videos from you now and you always check hands like AA on Axx. Do you do that just because of your reasoning you explained in the video or is this based on database analysis where you saw evidence this is really higher ev? Reason I am asking is because all GTO software bets here always the vast majority on flops (GTORB and PioSolver for sure atleast). Sometimes it checks turns if we check our range a lot but for example in this AQx spot we bet most of the time.

I am surprised how often you don't take the aggressive approach with your range basically in spots where the GTO software does (like it also always bets the 56 that you checked for example). I realize I didn't state my question clearly but would just like to hear more thoughts about this basically.

ClouD 9 years, 3 months ago

GTO software defends correctly, unlike human opponents. There is always value in betting the nuts at nash equilibrium, while it's not always the case in real games in spots where opponents are overfolding to begin with and you are blocking their calling hands.

Cameron Couch 9 years, 3 months ago

Top set will always struggle to get value given it's blocking effects, especially when population tends to under-defend on average. Don't get too caught up in the whole GTO approach when playing vs weak and imbalanced players. I think the EV of checking top-set will oftentimes trump the EV of betting it.

aamadeo 9 years, 3 months ago

21:41 If you had KK there, would you shove pre?? What would you expect to get called with?

Cameron Couch 9 years, 3 months ago

No, I wouldn't 5b shove KK pre unless I thought villain would 4b/c with QQ/AK. I won't be folding too often vs the 4bet, and KK will probably go into my calling range, as will a bunch of AA/AK combos.

gravy__J 9 years, 3 months ago

Could you please elaborate on checking the turn A w/ AJo on 245dd Ax oop. You said you dont see him having flush draws because he would probly jam flop with those which I agree with. However you also said he doesnt have many Aces which I also agree with. As you mentioned he also almost never has a set. To me it seems that this card is good for your range and you are going to want to be jamming your flush draws and your straight draws. I think you can jam here with QQ+ as well.

The pot is very large and you are giving free cards in a spot where hes never bluffing(as you mentioned)... so your letting his pair draw to two outs for free, and your letting flushes draw for free as in this case, even if he doesnt have many. With a PSR of 1 I always jam an Ace here and am wondering if thats terrible.

Cameron Couch 9 years, 3 months ago

When you jam QQ/KK/AJ on 235dd Ax, what worse hands do you expect to get called by? Even though these hands are often good OTT, he's simply calling all better hands and folding all worse hands if we were to jam turn. I think it's an attractive bluffing spot but not a spot where you should be 'merge' or thin-value jam at all. Further, his equity when behind isn't very good, except for the (somewhat) discounted time for when he has a FD, which makes me inclined to check this turn at a reasonably high frequency.

A_Trey 9 years, 3 months ago

Loved the video. I like this kind of structure for videos where you break down hands in such detail. Also not to sound greedy but would love more squeezing/3betting situation type videos at 50nl only because thats the cash games im playing :)

Mike H 9 years, 3 months ago

Hey I really like your " pre flop squeezing " video and thanks for sharing your thoughts !
I do have a question of the 56s squeezing hand. Flop comes 2dAhQd, which you said is good for your range (you could have AQo). And villain holds can be small pocket pairs and suited cards. so why giving his suited cards a free chance to draw a flush? and by checking, you seemed to show weakness to the villain. You said he is not the guy to fold often to C-bet so we check back. So in this sense, I don't understand why we are squeezing here (if we can't have a lot fold equity on flop)?

I hope I have expressed my question well here. thanks again and hope to see more of these videos.

Cameron Couch 9 years, 3 months ago

Just because I XB flop, it doesnt automatically mean I am weak or going to lose the pot. I will often be able to win the pot on later streets vs his flop-folding range (primarily under-pairs), so we do gain some information by checking. That said, it wouldn't be a terrible cbet IMO.

Mike H 9 years, 3 months ago

Thanks! that helps me a lot. maybe I have to learn to check . (I always CB/fold larter or DB/fold at river , I never learn to check). Thank you again!

Kinda Close 8 years, 3 months ago

Your squeeze range in SB vs UTG and BT call is TT+, AQo+, some strong suited broadways. It is really wide for me in 16nlz having less skills. So could you tell me how you play against 1) UTG 4B and 2) BT back raise?

Archer1066 6 years, 8 months ago

17:28: We get AJ, I was expecting us to check otherwise we’re not defending our checking range here? I can’t see too many other obvious check calls we could use here as our overpairs still require protection and want value. Unless we’re just betting our entire range here?

Raskolnikov79 2 years, 3 months ago

On the last hand, why does he "never have AK here."? You said he's very tight. He opened UTG. You 3bet. He 4bet. You called. He whiffs the flop. So when you check, he checks back. Isn't that a line that actually feels like it would be quite natural for an extremely tight player to take?

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