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Sam Grafton

POSTED Dec 16, 2013

Sam lays out the basic premises of KO strategy and shares a few key pots from a recent run in the PokerStars $265 KO.

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Martin 11 years, 3 months ago

Once again great video Sam! I'm a low/midstakes grinder so I don't get to play in tough lineups too often so it's really fun to see you at a table full of good regs battling it out.  

8:28 Would you be fine with taking a passive c/c line and have our opponent v-town himself a bit here and maybe lead some rivers?

13:12 Say the SB is a strong player are you 3xing anyway? I just fear that someone good might pick up on our sizing and accurately put us on the kind of hand we have. In that scenario would you consider 3xing the very top of your range too? 

24:37 It looks like an overjam for 27bbs but I can see why it's probably best against this aggro
lineup.
 1) Say you had K9o instead of KJo would you make it 19k/fold or are you reluctant to 3b/f in a spot where you don't look particularly strong? (with an already shallow stack)

2) So if you jam KJ here I guess you don't have much of a flatting range except some traps maybe?

Thx a lot!


 




Sam Grafton 11 years, 3 months ago

8.28 - Think check call better against a slightly wider range. Most of the time he either has 6 outs which we want to charge to realise their equity OR a smaller pair we can get value from by betting. Say it was bvsb or co vs button there are more hands like A9, 9T that we have in hopelessly bad shape where we can just check call and allow them to barrel off. In those instances as well opponent can have an 8 - where as in these positions he can't.

13.12 - Your right to draw attention to this. Obviously that's why at the moment myself and others keep their opening sizes uniform. however, it's frequently correct to make exploitatively sized river and turn bets I merely included the hand to raise the question of if there are occasions when we should do it preflop. As with unbalanced river sizings it's of most use versus weak opponents.

24.37 1) It depends on opponents tendencies as to whether i would have a 3 bet fold/call range in this spot. Most plays are far too eager to 4bet jam in these relative positions if you give them even a hint that they may have fold equity so I won't mainly avoid it and weight my range towards value in these positions. 

2) I don't flat too much in this spot but with this stack size flatting QJs/KJs wouldn't be too bad and with as little as 2bbs more it certainly becomes profitable.


Smile 11 years, 3 months ago

Hi Sam!

1) What do you think about 3b/fold w KJo at 15min? 

Let's say we make it 2150, they would still have to fold their SC's and low pairs, but we save chips when they have strong hands and we are more balanced with our nut hands that we would prefer to 3b, instead of shoving 25bb.

2) JTs min 20, i think we'd better bet a bit bigger OTT, to make the pot OTR smaller than exact pot size bet. Smth like 5200-5400 both with bluffs and good hands. 

Agree or disagree?

3) T9o is a bad shove for sure, but it's good you included this hand too. 

Thanks for good video!


Sam Grafton 11 years, 3 months ago

1) Firstly we can't be 100% sure that they won't peel and leave us with a very awkward situation when we miss the flop. Secondly we create a situation where we're getting too good a price against even a tight range of hands to 3 bet fold. - In HS tournaments if decisions are close between 3-bet fold and jam I tend to errr on the side of jamming. Edges are fine and being all in allows us to realise or equity and rules out the possibilty of being outplayed. Sounds a little crude but i believe it's a winning strategy.

2) Yes i agree. Well spotted. Guess just the excitement of making a five card hand!

3) Thanks for the feedback. Really appreciate it!



GregGT 11 years, 3 months ago

Hi, Sam <3

24:40, KJo - it's already a final table right? Rejam with 27bb looks like a kind of mistake it terms of ICM. I guess its a very small chance any ICM calc let us result with somewhat +$EV from this resteal (though no doubt it can be profitable in chipEV). I think it's slightly to much of chips to do it, and very awkward stack ofc.

I'd better flat here even despite we arenot that deep if he is really loose (cause he likely has decent number of weker Kx and Jx). I just feel that when we just jam we somewhat isolate ourself- and basically let our opponents call us correctly and ideal, cause its very hard for all of them (blinds and original raiser) to make any kind of mistake there. But when we flat we can extract additional value of playing postflop In Position and let our opponent make mistakes, and can exploit him this way. And obviously when we flat instead of shoving, we avoid some portion of risk of busting immediately when called and can pick up non-zero % opportunity to kind of dodge the bullet  if he has a monster.

p.s. though I see some decent regs who just pay no respect to icm playing final tables of "regular" tourneys (I think 265 KO is one of this kind), cause sums of money arent that huge at all.


Sam Grafton 11 years, 2 months ago

On reflection I think your right. It's definitely a leak of mine that i'm not ICM conscious enough. I think for me and some other regulars you identify it's a case of 'old habits die hard.' A while ago what made you stand out as a top player is that you took every spot and relentlessly went for the WIN. With games being tougher now you really need to alter your mindset, respect ICM and concentrate more on realising your expectation. Thanks for pointing this out.

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