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Poker Juice Hand Review (featuring CheckJam)

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Viktor Luis Larsson

POSTED Mar 18, 2017

Viktor is joined by CheckJam as they delve into some recent hands.

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porshy 7 years, 11 months ago

On the flop you assume you have no fold equity with CR and then on turn you think you have it on "scarecards". I think the logic is a bit flawed.
There is not so much room for maneuvering with having SPR 1.1 on the turn.

Check calling this hand on the flop is .. I'm not sure you can outplay opponent with such a low SPR and out of position. Check calling makes sense if we "know" that we can fold some "ugly" turns that kill our equity (namely diamond)
So maybe check calling makes sense if we then give up lets say on diamond turns. On board pairing turns we should continue since we have enough equity.
Leading turns on diamond I don't see much sense. And lets say on a 3, ok, we lead (basiclly shove). But if he is not folding on CR AI on the flop, he is not folding on this turn shove.
We continue on all the other "bricks".

I ussually just CR shove in this situations, but I'm glad I thought this through a littlle.

Lets say we check call and turn is diamond. Villains usually check their flushes (he is thinking, that you/we don't have set/2pair so no need to protect). And then on the river we check, and even if we hit our straight , we can fold on the river to a shove. So maybe there is a little merit here, but is all player dependant.
I guess there is a little room with C/C line if we know our a little opponent and his tendencies.
In a vacuum there is not so bad to CR the flop and see his hand, go from there:)

These are just my thoughts...

Viktor Luis Larsson 7 years, 11 months ago

Very interesting thoughts! As you noticed, the more you think about a situation, you actually start seeing other viable options. I think this is essential for growth as a poker player and not just getting stuck into habitual playing, hence I think any work done in PokerJuice is highly beneficial with all the possible answers the software can provide. Its pretty cool to see how you kind of swayed your mind from the initial c/r flop thinking to at the end of your post thinking about how an alternative line could work.

porshy 7 years, 11 months ago

Yes, I was typing my though process:)
Check/shoving is the easiest way to play, not neccesserilly best one.
When we calculate equity vs range on the flop, hands that "crush" our equity are mostly hands with DD (diamonds) . .. So it kind a makes sense that when diamond comes we kind a shut down/try to get to showdown, since he will have all that flushes on which we have 0% equity.

The question is if blank comes on the turn. Do we shove ourselves?
And maybe we get same fold equity that we would have with CR-ing the flop.

Since check calling with a Khigh and a wrap on Turn doesn't feel like we are outplaying anyone:)

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