Poker After Dark PLO Cash Game
Posted by Phil Galfond
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Good video Phil! Not sure I can get behind the Keith Lehr backraise @50 minute mark. Maybe i'm influenced by the cards being face up for me but this doesn't feel like the best hand suited for the backraise. ~2.4 SPR seems just a touch high for my comfort level with KJJ7 on the flop. What's funny is that I get the sense that Keith is playing 100% limp and Matty is playing a 100% raise strategy. Accepting this premise I think there are better hands for this play than this particular one.
Ty! I still think the KJJ7 is a raise based on exactly the premise you're describing. We can think of Matt's raise as his Big Blind, and then this is just opening a pretty strong hand SB v BB with short stacks.
Love this style of video. I live in Australia and am playing 100% live these days so comments about multiblind adjustments were really interesting as well as general live adjustments.
Looking forward to the next part! :)
Thanks, ryot!
i would prefer to not see a part 2 of this. Im sure this is great entertainment for those interested in that kind of thing but i feel your commentary adds very little - mainly because the overall level of play is so weak.
i liked your review of the episodes where you played yourself a lot more!
most interesting hand for me was the one where matt leads the nutflushdraw on J62 and the dude instafolds QQT8 backdoor flushdraw, pretty sure we should continue here in some way against the strategy matt was playing.
otherwise pretty boring content for me (dont mean any offense, i usually like your videos a lot phil and never comment :P)
Yeah, I would have continued QQT8 as well, but it's a very awkward spot.
Thank you for the feedback, and I'm sorry you weren't into this video. I'm going to write more about it in another post below. Give me a shout next time you like something so I know what to make more of!
Not a huge fan of this style. I feel like you're trying to explain hands from your perspective but they don't think like you so its conflicting information. If your just watching the video for entertainment that's fine but I'm not sure for elite status this type of review is good.
Thanks for the feedback, gpetrozza. chaos183 above had a similar feeling.
I'm trying to mix up my content, and I made this a goal of mine for 2018, which you may have seen in the forums or heard me mention in a prior video. I do release 4-5 Elite PLO videos a month, so you won't have to wait long to see whichever type of content you guys prefer, but I will cut this shorter than planned if people aren't into it.
I've already made some other parts of this series, and I truly believe there's a lot of value in it for anyone who plays live, and still plenty of value for online players - there are some very different tendencies at this table than there are in one of my many 10/20 or 25/50 online videos, but:
1) There is one recreational player at the table and one player who doesn't care whatsoever about preflop play, but he and the others are good, thinking players, and there are a lot of interesting hands that show up in this series, including some really strong plays that I wouldn't have made myself but get the chance to analyze.
2) This allows me to go into exploitative strategies, which is the strongest part of my game, more than I usually can in my videos. While there are a lot of very strong players in the games that all of you are playing, there are also a number of weak regulars and pure recreational players, and adjusting to them is perhaps the most important contributor to your winrate.
Anyways, I'm just explaining why I saw value in this series. I hope you'll give it a chance in future parts because I believe there's plenty of good stuff.
That said, don't let this make you (anyone) shy about sharing your feedback, good or bad. As I often say, I'm happy to make all types of videos, and hearing feedback directly from you guys is how I learn what you want to see.
Like chaos183, a lot of people watch and enjoy videos without saying anything. I won't ask you to post every time you think a video was pretty good, but please speak up in the comments section for videos you find the most helpful. Help me help you!
I wish I understood this 4-card game because the format seems like a fun change of pace. Can we get Sauce on PAD? :P
hi Phill, im not so familiar with they players, and it would be helpfull and more easy to concentrate on the action, if you referred to their screen names , as shown on tv, instead of their first names. but great to watch anyways. you are a star teacher :)
To be honest it's 1st time even when I can say that I don't want more such type of videos. Seems like good players trying to play on camera as recreational players. Don't care about cards, results, etc. Without a live video and cards shown up imho they all would play completely different way. So really don't know what we can learn from this, it really seems like ALL stars NBA weekend where no one cares about defense and everyone trying to play on camera.
Love this video for live pLo please do more.
I definitely enjoyed this format, 95% of the videos on the site (or so it seems) are analysis of online play. I'm sure there are other members like myself that hardly play online at all anymore so this kind of content is really appreciated.
hi everyone, now I have seen the hole episode, and I would say it is a MUST - continue serie!!!! the dynamic at the table, with Matt being super agro, (also running good) and dominating, is a very frequent scenario in many high stakes live games, and its always hard to combat, and will be great to see how this lineup will adjust. It is NOT! a weak line up, it just takes some time to figure out what to do about a "madman", who on hi´s side, already is ready to readjust, once they catch on. Im sure they all will start to tighten up, waiting for the " big hand" to trap with, but they really have to call -call -raise bluff imo. lets see .. out of the ordinary is always wellcome , bring it on Phill
A common theme in all of your videos is that of checking your range OOP: What about a video or short series on leading your range? It seems if we are checking our range OOP 90%+ of the time, we can be exploited if we play against common opponents all the time right? Or disagree?
Really really good video! I learn so much listening to you. Thanks Phil!
I very much appreciate seeing this kind of video. Hearing how you think about playing in these configurations & against the crazy mix of strategies one sees live at all stakes is very useful. The stakes and stack sizes change a lot too within live games.
I get the impression from the comments that some online players are not aware that people actually play like this live for significant money on regular basis. It is also not so obvious that it is not alway very easy to develop counterstrategies in a small number of hands without perfect information -- i.e. we don't get to see the hole cards or a lot of showdowns. Also, live recreational players might wildly adjust their strategies for many reasons.
Please continue the series and thank you!
These guys are just surprisingly bad players..
I am not sure if raising 6663ss from the straddle around minute 36 was GTO, even if he did have position.I don't know much about blockers and hand reading, but that didn't look so good.
47:30 Is checking back KK on A65r still a good idea vs a very aggressive player, who will (possibly) bet flop and turn river regardless of his hand? I mean Kirk seemed a player, who could easily do that, especially on str8 completing cards, and KK will not be able to stand the heat on 2 streets, thus cbetting is just preventing Kirk doing that.
Generally vs very aggressive, very loose (often recreational) players what should be our best starategy with such marginal hands? Chb and have it to fold or bet and prevent him from taking the initiative
I like this style alot! It's perfect while I am multi-tasking.
As a mostly live player I love this style of video. Biggest flaw for this particular video is the lack of optimal play as the players are on TV, friends, and don't mind just splashing around. For example trying to analyze Kirk's "range" on the 10-9-5-5 board when he flops bottom pair and the wrong open-ender is borderline pointless as I don't think he's actually going through any true thought process other than attempting to muscle Ben off the pot for fun.
That being said love the format, really appreciate live play break-down because it plays so much different than multi-table online, and hope we can see more of it soon
As a live player, I prefer to see live games. Would be great to see live at the bike analysis as well.
Also, I was thinking with the Ben Lamb hand where he bets QJJx on the xxKA3 board I was thinking he does block AQ and AJ so perhaps that's part of his reasoning.
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