PLO Live Session: $2.5/$5 through $100/$200 (part 2)

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PLO Live Session: $2.5/$5 through $100/$200 (part 2)

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Phil Galfond

POSTED Nov 30, 2015

Phil continues his session, playing a table of $100/$200 PLO along with some $10/$20 Zoom.

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Demondoink 9 years, 3 months ago

@39.00 very important question, do you call if he shoves $200 extra in to $15k with your pair of 2s? haha. just to see his hand? :P

nittyoldman 9 years, 3 months ago

Phil, I apologize for length, but I have many questions. You mention that you weren't feeling focused 100% when making this video which raised an eyebrow for me. Some of your pre-flop decisions--I was thinking I would do the opposite. Could you please comment? Thank you in advance.

What is the reasoning behind the 2.1x open on the button in the 3 way ante game top right? I don't get how that could be better than at least a 3x sizing as a standard with Illari 100bb deep with you... edit: I just realized how short stacked LrsLzk is in the sb... is his stack more of a consideration as for choosing an opening size than is Illari's in bb?

29:39 Qc6c5c3 seems to me to be slightly too weak to defend our bb vs btn 4.2x (20bb effective). I'm snap folding this. Do you think a fold is too tight here? Or do you just like to give Lars action?

30:37 This one I feel I would near 100% call QcJcT6 sb vs btn 2.5x(80bb eff). Is this a standard fold for you in this spot? the big blind is 60bb deep.

I'm going to stop my preflop questions there as I understand the reasoning behind every post-flop decision you have made since you talk through it, but I am worried [for myself] that my preflop fundamentals and maybe the way I hand select is drastically different than yours.

46:15 Can you comment on Gavz decision to check back turn with AKQT twice, in a 3 way pot, on Ac4d2cAs... it seems like he loses out value against other worse AXXX and flush draws, plus he protects against some of the wheel gutters like 4567. I just dont understand why he would choose to check back this hand category ott. Only reasoning I can possibly imagine is if he is purposely attempting to strengthen his range to check down to the river, which seems like he can use slightly worse AXXX hands to accomplish that.

Thanks Again Phil

Phil Galfond 9 years, 3 months ago

It's player specific. He overfolds by quite a bit to that sizing, but 3-bets at a reasonable frequency vs any sizing. Lars 3-bets a fair amount too, so I want to open almost every hand for 2.1 (excellent price for a blind steal) and not cost myself as much when I get 3-bet.

Phil Galfond 9 years, 3 months ago

I didn't realize you added more questions!

I stand by the preflop plays, though the Q653ccc hand is close. As far as the QJT6, people aren't raising as light on the button as they used to, and it's a tricky hand to play OOP (and my pot odds aren't tremendous). I wouldn't hate a call but I still prefer a fold.

I think Gavz would bet the turn most of the time (and he should) and maybe could check back 5% or less just to pick off some river bluffs and so he's allowed to raise some rivers. I don't like his play as a standard.

Krzysztof Slaski 9 years, 3 months ago

Hi Phil,
39:30 AKQTss sb 3bet vs btn.
Could you discuss what your x/calling range looks like? Would AAxx make better xc's? Would we ever x a hand that blocks straights in this spot?
47:20 J972 limp and xf bvb.
Could you also discuss this x/calling range and why you feel 97 isn't strong enough to call here. Is this due to bb's betting strategy or do you feel like we have enough better hands in our range to defend in this spot. Seems like since our limping strat is so wide we should defo defend all of our 2p hands.

Phil Galfond 9 years, 3 months ago

39:30 AKQTss sb 3bet vs btn.
Could you discuss what your x/calling range looks like? Would AAxx make better xc's? Would we ever x a hand that blocks straights in this spot?

Hard to sum up my x/c range, but I check this flop at a very high frequency. I x/c most one pair hands Qx+, I would also x/c with straight draws that weren't strong enough to x/r, or the rare QQ65/4455 slowplays.

47:20 J972 limp and xf bvb.
Could you also discuss this x/calling range and why you feel 97 isn't strong enough to call here. Is this due to bb's betting strategy or do you feel like we have enough better hands in our range to defend in this spot. Seems like since our limping strat is so wide we should defo defend all of our 2p hands.

We don't have to be quite as concerned with proper defense here given we are 3 handed. On a board this draw heavy, I don't expect BB to be leading light, and I think this hand does pretty poorly against his full range. I would generally call some KQT type hands, along with the draws I opt not to x/r with. Dry bottom two is a lot worse than it may look.

teamblacksheep 9 years, 3 months ago

Hello.

The hand at 8:30 where you river the nut straight with the nutflush blocker and you say it's interesting, then change your mind, say it's not interesting and check-back. Do you think it's because his turn range is so just so heavily weighted towards flush draws that once he hits the river he won't fold enough to make it profitable for you to bluff? Considering the small chance that you will get him to fold half the pot when he calls the turn with Q9,times you get heroed by worse, and the amount you get him to fold weak flushes, how often do you consider a big bet on this river?

Phil Galfond 9 years, 3 months ago

I think that since the flush hit on the river, it's not as effective to use a nut flush blocker. I can bluff with plenty of hands (don't need the nut blocker to do so), and I can value bet a lot of flushes. Due to that, I think that showdown value becomes a very important factor when deciding which hands to bluff with here.

If the flush had hit on the turn, I would be more likely to follow through on the river.

miami002 8 years ago

Those dudes who complain about other players speed always entertain me. If you are so bored and have time to complain why not just play 1-2 more tables. Why waste your time zzzzzing! :)
Very nice series btw! More high stakes action please.

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