T542ds seems like a great hand to have in a 3way 4B pot with good relative position against face up high card hands. You have perfect visibility except for possibly dominated flush draws.

very good vid Phil ! Thx :) 

A95Q 19:19

half pot bet with 'air' ?  hmmm.  i guess the answer depends on what we block and what the breakdown of villain's BB range is (likelihood of each of villain's possible holdings)... and out of all these hands what portion would he fold on turn after bet calling flop, because he doesn't have enough equity to call a half pot bet on turn and a potential bet on the river

from range point of view less than pot size bet might be okay with made hands too, if you have redraws.  not all rivers are gonna be bad, obviously.

just thinking out loud

A95Q 19:19

My inclination is that we don't need a half pot size bet range in those spots. 

When SPR~1 I think balance is fairly insignificant. We can just give up with our total air bets and/or check back and bluff some rivers where FE is higher. Also as you mentioned our air flop raises will occasionally pick up backdoor outs we can jam with. Even jamming our total air on turn is fine times we believe we have >50%FE. We can occasionally balance with the top-top of our range by checking back turn and jamming river given there is only 1 PSB of value left to attain. This would protect our flop bluffing range. 

The reason I think balance on that turn is fairly insignificant is that on such a wet board and SPR~1 he only needs 33% equity to call with no RIO so even when we have value, getting folds from his range isn't a disaster. Let's say he has GS+FD (KTdd) he still has 25% equity and technically we want a call from that hand when we pot it but it's not making us much. If we bet half pot he can call with a lot of his draws and we would be facing really bad river spots getting 6:1 when he jams. Once SPR gets low I think we will rarely want to have pure bluffs given FE should be low. As mentioned above if we get a turn that we believe FE is high then there is nothing wrong with bluffing full pot and getting stacks in dead as long as FE>50%

Nice video as usual.

I was assuming a hand like KdTdAx7y on Qd9d4s would just call. Likewise you gave an example like AK97 iirc as a hand in his range. That's a hand I assumed he'd fold. If he really is jamming all marginal draws and peeling that light it certainly increases his sub 20% frequency and accordingly some of my strategy and reasoning is inappropriate. Even if he isn't peeling super light I do agree that I might have overlooked how often he is in the sub20% category.

That said, some of my points still hold water. Because if he peeled with AK97 for example it was on the premise that your range is very weak and not just better made hands and draws. He had to assign many low equity bluffs in your range to make a call like that. So once that turn falls even though it makes every legit made hand and draw now have SD value, your "low equity" bluffs still can be weak and he can make some light turn calls even to your pot shove. 

My gut tells me that if he is correctly defending a hand like AK97 then you are over bluffing that spot. It seems that on such a wet board the nature of PLO equities is that a lot of his PFR range oop even BvB should be able to continue on that flop often enough such that he doesn't need to defend AK97 (i know it was just one example but I'm using it a lot).

Below is a flawed but quick stab at your range IF you have many bluffs. This is including every AT, T8 and TT combo which results in lots of bluffs. 

Flop Q94dds

75%-20%:(q9,q4,44,99,qq,jt8:dd,jtK:dd,at,t8,TT)    64.5% eq

AK97!dd!ss                                                        35.5% eq

on turn he drops to 22% equity even vs that range. I just don't see how we can expect him to peel any 1 pair type hands. 

Lets say turn was a 7 and makes him 2pair. He now has 42% equity vs your "bluffy" range and may just call off vs a pot bet anyway. 

Basically I think the bolded part is most important. 

My assumption was that he'd shove hands like KdTdAx7x.

I gave him a very good price on a flop peel, which also gives me a very good price on a bluff while leveraging his stack.

I think our problem in analyzing this hand is that we have no real idea what hands peel and what hands shove (and what hands fold flop).  If we did, the turn analysis would be much easier.

on turn he drops to 22% equity even vs that range. I just don't see how we can expect him to peel any 1 pair type hands. 

Hot Tip:  Would be nice if you could throw in a NLH table sometimes when playing PLO to make it more worthwhile to watch your videos.  I like PLO but just  not enough games running in U.S. to play it all the time.  Plus it would give you some more practice at NLH since you don't play it as much as you used to.

last hand: do we have a cr range here and what is it gonna look like?