6 Table $25/$50 Deep Ante PLO (part 1)
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Phil, in the QJT3 hand on the T73hh flop, if your hand is QJT7 instead are you still folding? What about bottom set?
QJT7 and bottom set, I'm not folding. A large chunk of his value range is T7 there, not to mention the fact that he has a semibluff range. I doubt I should be getting away from either.
In this same hand you mention getting decent pot odds. I don't quite understand that. You're getting 2:1 with another half pot sized bet left, meaning you need 42.4% to get it in. You mention three parts of his range, sets, top two pair, and draws that you flip against (89Jx roughly fits that purpose).
I was curious how these need to be weighted to reach 42.4%, so I did:
Lines 2 and 3 represent the frequencies of these hands in 35%!15% and 25%!10% respectively. I know that's a bit simplistic, but looking at line 4 he needs the draw 6 times as often as made hands. That seems like a lot. Adding flush draws it gets closer, but he'd still probably need to shove 100% of his nut flush draws, and still some others.What am I missing?
Seems we need 42% to get it in. 33xx is 46% against a range of only Axhh, J98x, 45h6xh, TTxx and 77xx so we're good there.
http://propokertools.com/simulations/show?b=th7h3c&g=oh&h1=qdjdts7s&h2=Axhh%2C+J98x%2C+45h6xh%2C+TT%2C+77%2C+33&s=generic
QJT7 is only 38% against Ahxhxx, J98x, 4h5h6x, TT, 77 and 33. If you add in T7 we have 40% equity, add in T3 and T7 and we have 47%. If however you give him T3 with hearts we're back down to 40%
If we have QJT7 I guess it comes down to wether or not he's jamming T3xx or not in this spot. If he is we can get it in. Do you think he's jamming hands like 3457 with BDFD is this spot as well? If so then it becomes a clear get it in. Also if we have a BDFD then we're breaking even against Axhh, J98x, 45h6xh, TT, 77, 33, T7xx, T3hxhx.
jonna,
that equity breakdown looks better than mine, visually and statistically :) what is it? where can i get it?
Another thing I just thought of is that villian is less likely to CR J89x without a FD on this flop because he doesn't really want to get it in against a hand that contains a flush draw and it is a likely result for him when he CR's two players so I think his range is weighted more toward made hands and strong draws as opposed to wraps with no FD. Might make QJT7 more of a fold??
"jonna,that equity breakdown looks better than mine, visually and statistically :) what is it? where can i get it?"
People ask that a lot. I've been considering putting some of these things into an app, but for now I'm just doing it very quickly in a spreadsheet. I'm sure any spreadsheet program will do just fine.
Cantbeat isnt shoving J98 (at least naked), and I doubt he is shoving naked Ahh(I could be wrong here)
This video makes me wish for reduced playback speed.
@26 mins, top right table when you cr T845ds on Q53r with 2 bdfds, I think this hand works best as a c/c rather than a c/r mainly due to strength of hand it can make.
maybe if they were 200bbs deep.. But with these stack sizes c/r is def. better than c/c
Hi Phil! You didn't really explain why you choose to flat on the turn in the 3bet pot where the board was KQTd 4d, he cbet flop and you called with J9T7. To me it looks like a shove on turn intuitevely, mostly for protection and avoiding difficult river spots, so would be great with some more explaining!
He often will check some middling hands against me here, like 2pr+fd or sets + gutter. I think his betting range is more polarized and will include plenty of hands that crush mine or are freerolling me, and then some very weak hands with blockers but very little equity to improve, so I am not as worried about protection here as you may expect.
Calling with a wide variety of hands in my spot gives us a lot of river flexibility with our range, and forces him to act first. I will very often slowplay the nut straight here on the turn as well.
Hi Phil.
9min, table 2 with bottom 2 pairs in limp-raised pot. What were you going to do against cbet on the flop? This is not bad board for barreling on wide range, but with your hand you couldn't raise on either street i assume (well, maybe 4c, 6c or 7c cards were good for check-raising turn).
Also, would you make it different in 100bb stacks? Playing oop with bottom2 with barely no redraws.
Thanks.
"Sorry for running it twice on run it once video" cool -)
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