Hi Phil. You open sb v bb and call 3b with KsTs8s7h and flop comes 6h6cQh and flop goes check-check. What is the reason for c/calling 8d on turn? Especially if not bluffing hearts on river? I think on 66Q cantbeat is going to c-bet big junk of his air and checking back hands with some showdown value 99xx+ ,Qxxx and maybe some flushdraws .
22:00 you cr QJ99ss on 653ss. I mostly just have comments again. I agree its prob best given low visibility on turns and rivers, his stabbing frequency, and your equity is good. This brings me again to hoping you get some footage of really deep play. Where we are forced to navigate the tricky waters of xc for multiple streets. I face spots like this where I'm 400bb deep and on blanks I xf turns aware I'm folding current best hand at times. On a 9 I'm still just forced to xc in hero mode given 78 74 and 42 still are ahead. Spades are tricky too given my range looks like a FD and i have non nut so value betting is not very profitable and xc turns and rivers with flushes is also questionable given my perceived range. Xf flops looks too exploitable though. Vs aggressive opponents though xf becomes an option given the RIO of later streets. Basically it makes for some interesting tough decision making.
An aside, its interesting to see your strategy change over the years I'm sure mostly as both a function of improving and adjustment to trends. For me I only see sporadic samples of your game via videos so changes in your game are more dramatic than to you via self evaluation on a daily basis. I've watched your vids from the single CR vid to most of BFP. As you 3bet QJ99ss in this vid I had a clear memory of you stating you didn't like 3betting hands like QJ99ss a few years ago. It's cool to see your style change for various reasons even on subtle things like that. Biggest change over last couple years i notice is you used to be considerably more nitty pf.
10:00 the aq96ss hand in which cantbeat 3b's pre cbet j92 fd. I'm surprised 230bb deep that you don't think raising has more merit. From what it seems cantbeats tendencies lean towards high betting aggression on multiple streets with smaller sizing but low intensity towards other forms of aggression. Vs that style it seems to me that peeling lots of weak marginal hands leads to akward turn spots in which he 1/2 pots again and we are often still stuck with a marginal hand, or bluffing scenario. We don't improve that often to a made hand that is comfortable calling 3 streets, and so we are mainly relying on our blocker bluff. Given his low intensity and high betting frequency and the extra deep stacks it seems bluff raising has more merit. I'm curious what type of hands you do think are good to bluff raise here, esp given his very high 3b, and small but freq betting pattern.
Phil mentioned raising had merits but one trend that cantbeat had been showing was a high river fold freq. By flatting and keeping SPR higher Phil can float twice and rep a myriad of rivers when checked to if he doesn't have enough SD value.
Hey Phil. Just some general feedback if I may. Great job analyzing the hands as they lay. Of additional great value I think, is when you analyze the hands as if different turns and rivers were to appear. ie, putting yourself into tricky situations. (Very rarely do other pros on this site do that). I understand no two poker hands are the same, but your thought process that goes into these other situations I find very helpful and I think it is an under used teaching tool in general.
2:00 HU Table, you call open 9532hhdd and ch/ca 873rdh.
Why do you think ch/ca ing is > ch/r on flop? It seems like a) when we do get him to fold to the ch/r, the hands that are folding often have really good equity against our holding, b) we can barrel heart and diamond turns along with 4,5,6,9,T,J. Maybe 8/7. c) ch/r-folding this hand isn't costing us that much in equity against most flop 3b ranges, d) our flushdraws are fairly vulnerable and by narrowing his flop cbetting range and folding out a lot of his c-bets w/ back doors, we liven our suits.
35:00 Table 1 you call a 3b w/ J862ddd and call a flop bet on K42dd. turn 2 villain leads and you say you like a jam. Why do you like that over calling and having a more protected turn calling range(I suppose there are better combos we could use to protect our calling range, namely boats)? It seems like a spot where he has a decent amount of bluffs that have little to no equity vs you as well as most of his value range not having more than 8-11 outs vs you. So, trying to gain from his air seems like it outweighs any type of protection.
The argument you made in the video about getting value on the turn before a bad card rolls off does seem good though.
In one of your earlier videos you say that Q1099 ss is overrated and then in the next video you tell us QJJ9 ss and connected pairs in general is underrated. What is correct? :) The first hand is maybe not connected enough because of the gap?
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Hi Phil. You open sb v bb and call 3b with KsTs8s7h and flop comes 6h6cQh and flop goes check-check. What is the reason for c/calling 8d on turn? Especially if not bluffing hearts on river? I think on 66Q cantbeat is going to c-bet big junk of his air and checking back hands with some showdown value 99xx+ ,Qxxx and maybe some flushdraws .
22:00 you cr QJ99ss on 653ss. I mostly just have comments again. I agree its prob best given low visibility on turns and rivers, his stabbing frequency, and your equity is good. This brings me again to hoping you get some footage of really deep play. Where we are forced to navigate the tricky waters of xc for multiple streets. I face spots like this where I'm 400bb deep and on blanks I xf turns aware I'm folding current best hand at times. On a 9 I'm still just forced to xc in hero mode given 78 74 and 42 still are ahead. Spades are tricky too given my range looks like a FD and i have non nut so value betting is not very profitable and xc turns and rivers with flushes is also questionable given my perceived range. Xf flops looks too exploitable though. Vs aggressive opponents though xf becomes an option given the RIO of later streets. Basically it makes for some interesting tough decision making.
An aside, its interesting to see your strategy change over the years I'm sure mostly as both a function of improving and adjustment to trends. For me I only see sporadic samples of your game via videos so changes in your game are more dramatic than to you via self evaluation on a daily basis. I've watched your vids from the single CR vid to most of BFP. As you 3bet QJ99ss in this vid I had a clear memory of you stating you didn't like 3betting hands like QJ99ss a few years ago. It's cool to see your style change for various reasons even on subtle things like that. Biggest change over last couple years i notice is you used to be considerably more nitty pf.
10:00 the aq96ss hand in which cantbeat 3b's pre cbet j92 fd. I'm surprised 230bb deep that you don't think raising has more merit. From what it seems cantbeats tendencies lean towards high betting aggression on multiple streets with smaller sizing but low intensity towards other forms of aggression. Vs that style it seems to me that peeling lots of weak marginal hands leads to akward turn spots in which he 1/2 pots again and we are often still stuck with a marginal hand, or bluffing scenario. We don't improve that often to a made hand that is comfortable calling 3 streets, and so we are mainly relying on our blocker bluff. Given his low intensity and high betting frequency and the extra deep stacks it seems bluff raising has more merit. I'm curious what type of hands you do think are good to bluff raise here, esp given his very high 3b, and small but freq betting pattern.
Phil mentioned raising had merits but one trend that cantbeat had been showing was a high river fold freq. By flatting and keeping SPR higher Phil can float twice and rep a myriad of rivers when checked to if he doesn't have enough SD value.
Hey Phil. Just some general feedback if I may. Great job analyzing the hands as they lay. Of additional great value I think, is when you analyze the hands as if different turns and rivers were to appear. ie, putting yourself into tricky situations. (Very rarely do other pros on this site do that). I understand no two poker hands are the same, but your thought process that goes into these other situations I find very helpful and I think it is an under used teaching tool in general.
2:00 HU Table, you call open 9532hhdd and ch/ca 873rdh.
Why do you think ch/ca ing is > ch/r on flop? It seems like a) when we do get him to fold to the ch/r, the hands that are folding often have really good equity against our holding, b) we can barrel heart and diamond turns along with 4,5,6,9,T,J. Maybe 8/7. c) ch/r-folding this hand isn't costing us that much in equity against most flop 3b ranges, d) our flushdraws are fairly vulnerable and by narrowing his flop cbetting range and folding out a lot of his c-bets w/ back doors, we liven our suits.
35:00 Table 1 you call a 3b w/ J862ddd and call a flop bet on K42dd. turn 2 villain leads and you say you like a jam. Why do you like that over calling and having a more protected turn calling range(I suppose there are better combos we could use to protect our calling range, namely boats)? It seems like a spot where he has a decent amount of bluffs that have little to no equity vs you as well as most of his value range not having more than 8-11 outs vs you. So, trying to gain from his air seems like it outweighs any type of protection.The argument you made in the video about getting value on the turn before a bad card rolls off does seem good though.
In one of your earlier videos you say that Q1099 ss is overrated and then in the next video you tell us QJJ9 ss and connected pairs in general is underrated. What is correct? :) The first hand is maybe not connected enough because of the gap?
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