In the hand where the weaker player limps utg, you decide to raise Q9o and mentioned the reason why you wanted to raise. I've always thought a raise was standard, but do you think limping your whole range will play better, since you'll have some strong stuff to continue with by calling or limp reraising, and you'll be able to complete a bunch more hands getting great pot odds? I guess it's pretty similar to sb vs bb play opened?

Cool hand with the 98s. 

With the ch/r with 76hh as pfr CO v BTN on K52hh, you mention you expect better FDs to call and then jam turns a bit. On a 6 or 7 turn would you just continue by betting, to b/c. Ch/c seems meh..

What do you think of ch/r flop with ur some Axhh hands that will presumably be able to b/c a lot of turns and possibly get it in good?  

For feedback- I really enjoy these vids where you go with your reads and punish ppl. It could be at .01./.02 or 100/200 and the content is always A+. It seems like zoom works really well, too.

Kh 5h 2s : why would button ever bet flop when you check to him if you have much more value combos than he does ? Are you just exploiting him thinking he'll be unbalanced towards bluff when checked to ?

Nice video, you (RIO) promised like 3-4 months ago, that it would be possible to change speed in the videos, but nothing have happened yet?

run it twice [x]!

@Phil : If you would like to take notes in Zoom, just hit the replay button after the hand and you will be able to write it for the specific player.

with Td8d on the river at ~17:45, what are your thoughts on over betting here?

min15 44 hand on KK4 9 6

I find very intresting the river bet-sizing. I heard a discussion a month before between GameTheory and another active member of RunItOnce where they arrived a conclussion. Something like: "When our range does not have enough bluffs, so the bluffcatchers of the villain hasn´t got equity enough to find a call, i just could overbet 100% of our range". Because any action that our villain takes different to fold, will always be better for us if we are overbetting, than betting 1/2 pot. He can´t call anyway to any sizing (1/2 pot or 2x ).

Do you think this could apply to this spot ? 

Am i right with my interpretetion of that ?

can he not have a MUCH wider value range if the blinds are remotely squeezy?

@Andrew Sweeny This is the thread. http://www.runitonce.com/nlhe/fire-river-after-float-200nl/

I also was thinking about last hand that Phil played with 75ss. What could be the best strategy in the opponent shoes once Phil checks the turn ? Like Phil said, he has to be very carefull to not be very bluffy with so many gutshots. 

I would be very intresting to see what´s Phil doing if villain 2x pot the river. Seems like a good spot to create an overbet strategy with our 6x/gutshots. Problem with this board, at difference to the thread´s board, is that villain range is not capped. And Phil could perfectly check/shove river with hands like J6/65/JJ. Which i also think we should do almost always.

Good Video, More like this please :)

@Phil,

The 76hh hand, why do you expect villains to stab much when checked to? Given as you mentioned you have many more value combos than villain, I dont think villains will stab this flop type much. Additionally he will expect you to cbet your air a lot so he will bet even less often. Your hand will be disguised but will still look like a non c/f range. Lots of QQ, JJ, etc. I like the concept of c/r here but I dont think villains will stab air and weak hands often enough to get many c/r's in. 

You stated that his betting range would be FDs, KX, and mid pairs. I think the mid pairs check a lot. Are you targeting hands like KQ, KJ that would never fold to bet bet bet, and now trying to get folds from those? If KQ, KJ, aren't folding then we are just inflating pot with a either dominated FD or a naked FD vs TP. Seems like a poor position to be in. 

That said, I guess we don't mind if it goes check check because we can delay cbet to fold out his air and medium PPs if our check range looks like marginal SD and slowplays.

@Phil,

On the AA9r flop you state that you think the best way to combat villain bluff raising you here when you hold a bluff is to 3bet, which in turn means we must occasionally deviate from the optimal vacuum play of just calling with hands like A7.

What are your thoughts on the following? We float with our bluffs, hands like KJ, QJ, Q8s, etc. to better rep SD like 9x and Ax type hands. If he gives up on turn and it goes check check, we can just SD with our K-high+ and pairs 9x and below given he is polarized. But with our floats weaker than K-high or if we start seeing he is raising merged than we can overbet or just bet large on river given he has capped his range with a turn check. 

If he is the type to fire the 2nd barell we can float again and also we can choose to cr rivers on K, Q, J with all non Ax hands.  If he is bluffing we just fold out his bluffs, but if he has Ax, we can get him to fold some as well given we dont have air after b/c c/c and we have so many more combos of AK, AQ, AJ than he does.

This strategy allows us to keep the b/c vacuum line with A7 as the range play as well. And I think will more credibly rep value hands when we float with our bluffs. It also protects our 9x, JJ type hands as well becuase we arent having to raise our Ax hands for balance.

Hey Zach,

76hh-

My assumption was that most players will stab here with a very wide, merged range.  This is how people have played the few times I've played NL lately.  I'll admit, I'm out of touch with the games, so if people aren't stabbing here, my play loses a lot of merit.

A99r flop-

Floating here makes it very cheap for him to bluff while still realizing equity against our non Ax hands.  The problem I find is that it's very hard to profitably float the turn OOP, and we are too likely to face a turn bet to just float flop planning to give up on the turn.

Double floating OOP, planning to x/r some rivers doesn't tend to work well, as he'll bet river polarized and then check back marginal showdown value (that he already had, or picks up).  We end up essentially trying to bluffcatch on the river, but paying much more for it.

I agree that your suggestion allows us to play A7 and JJ better, but I think we lose a significant amount of EV with our bluffs... much more than we gain with our A7-JJ hands.

With the 76hh hand I like the CR. My guess would be he is stabbing around 60-70%. I also think there are some bonuses relative to double barreling. 1) It defines villains range towards something that is quite likely to be CAPed, this gives us the opportunity to put in an over-bet OTT and we can follow threw OTR some% of the time. 2) IMO when we CR and barrel villain is more likely to raise or fold his FDs relative to calling with a higher % of FDs to a double barrel CB, im curious if others think that is true.
However In relative terms I don't think our value CR range is running into as fewer value hands then advertised. He has 6 combos of 22 and 55, we have combos 33 (AA,AK,K5s,22,55) and we look it as a ratio in absolute terms we have 6:33. If we are opening CO 28% and villain is flatting 14% the relative ratio is 6:16.5.

Correction, we have 27 combos for (AA,AK,K5s,22,55). Absolute ratio= 6:27 and relative=6:13.5

Great video Phil! Vids like this were the reason i fell for you back in the day :)

WRT the 76hh hand, I assume should we be barreling with our non-flush value combos on a heart turn, at least some % of them time?

On AJ hand on Jd7dTd brick turn board around 50 min, you say that you're afraid of betting turn because you are bet folding to a raise.  Why bet fold?  I think most players, especially someone half stacking and unlikely to be a good reg, are going to be unbalanced and have very few hands that beat you by that point, so even if you're still only 65-70% vs his semibluffs I feel like I'd be pretty happy bet calling.

Q9o on 42min vs the recreational player is such an interesting hand, i always endup c/f ing turn.

Few questions:
- Would you barrel any heart rivers ? I guess its puts allot of pressure on his pps, but hes also gonna hit them with his FDs, plus do we think we can make a K fold on it ?
- Would you barrel complete bricks like 2o,3o ? Do you think he folds like 99 when we jam pot ?

MrSweets was high when recorded this. Pretty funny and extremelly informational vid! This site probably has the best GTO theory on the world, but is always good to remember that we can exploit dem fish. Specially cause I play 25NL lol
THANKS PHIL

thanks Phil, still cool to see old school stuff