Raising Turns in PLO (Part 3: Playing Against Capped Ranges)
Posted by Phil Galfond
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Sauce needs to call with at least 32 percent of his range on the river if he wants to protect himself against giving Phil a profitable bluff with any hand, and it makes sense to call with the top part of his range, which 9c4cxx definitely is given the line taken. You could say that Phil is polarised here, so it doesn't matter which bluffcatchers Sauce calls with, but he should still call with flushes rather than 2 pair/set (not that he has that many) as these block some flush combos making it more likely Phil is bluffing.
In the last hand where u flop top set on three flush board three way out of position, I'm a bit confused as to why u think check raise on the turn is better than check call. I can understand the merits u mentioned by check raising ( fold equity and for deception when we river a boat), but isn't top set too strong a hand to turn into a bluff?
Also in general, when or what factors do u consider whether to check call on the turn out of position?
I was smiling as I watched through the video. Most of my opponents don't know that their ranges are capped, and these kinds of plays don't work anywhere near as well as they "should". So these concepts don't apply all that much to the games I play, but it's still enjoyable to watch this series.
It would be interesting so see an episode about raising turns against players who may not know so much about ranges and board textures (typical for lower stakes). What adjustments would you make to your turn raising strategy in that situation? Is it strictly a value game then, or can you still find spots to win when you're behind/chopping?
Against players who have high a turn x/r frequency I think we should just bet more polarised with say {slowplayed flop hands, turned big hands} and {weak draws, weak pairs} and look to check our middle strength hands like QQ on A44x. We want to check these hands because the advantage of protection betting is outweighed by the times we're bluffed or have to put in too much money with too weak a holding. I think this is esp good vs villains who will x/r wide for value and with little equity bluffs but choose to lead their draws.
By checking we also get to the river where we can control the number of bets that go in and use our position/informational advantage on a static board.
Also as an aside, if villains' turn c/r freq is too high compared to what is optimal we should definitely be looking to add to our flop slowplay range. Usually the best candidate hands for this are those which are strong absolutely on the flop (like trips weak kicker) but are crushed vs a typical flop value check/raise range. However if we can get plenty of bets in on future streets vs a wide range we should definitely consider checking back some flopped nutted hands.
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