$25/$50 PLO: More HU and Shorthanded Action
Posted by Phil Galfond
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Hey Phil, enjoyed the video, it's interesting to switch between HU/6max spots and having to think about the differences.
5:20 I find the analysis of the opponents folding range vs different probe sizings interesting. Larger sizings like "100%" could make the opponent fold non-Ahigh FD's with no additional equity, plenty of overpairs (including the weaker AAxx).
Q: How was your thought process affected by the preflop ranges & stack depth, leading you to prioritize "protection betting 25% vs 4 overs" > "betting 50%-100% to challenge mediocre holdings"?
Thanks, Andreas Fröhli!
I think it comes down to my hand more than the ranges. I have a lot of outs, but they're not very nutty outs, so building a big pot and narrowing his range devalues them and can put me in some costly reverse implied odds situations. I'd rather use a hand with less equity vs. a dry overpair that had a few nut outs,\ and/or hands that were also likely to river some good blockers for my large sizing range.
I also should point out: I don't think you need to worry about playing this board optimally against almost anyone at stakes below 500plo. This board usually misses both players, so while he's usually got 1 pair or worse, so do I. All but the best still struggle to defend and bluff properly given how weak most of their holdings are in absolute hand strength.
Hi Phil,
The first hand top left AKK3hhh on Ts9d3d... It seems to me that check folding this hand leaves us way over folding on this board, that as you said, seems rather good/OK for us. The hand we have seems to make a good candidate for a pot cbet/get-in, reducing IP playability on this dynamic board and also putting a lot of 1 pair hands and/or weak dd hands in a roughish spot.
Most of all you should just get a ton of folds, which is pretty great.
Were you perhaps a bit nitty here or am I misunderstanding the spot quite horribly? :-)
Otherwise thanks for a quality video.
Hey, pot/calling it off seems like a pretty sizable leak at this SPR without any blocker. AKK3 can't really play many turns, while also not having great equity on the flop already against the non-air portion of V, so why not XF ;)?
Yes you are right pot/calling off is not going to be correct, that was my mistake. Pot folding would be the play.
I think that betting large would be a mistake. It just doesn't have any qualities of a hand that I want to bet large with, no turns I'm thrilled about once I've bloated the pot, no blockers to the majority of his continuing range.
I think block betting (and folding to a raise) would be an okay strategy here, but I would guess checking is better.
This was the hand I was interested in as well, as my thought was the same as Endymions when first watching: C/folding here seems like an over fold
I haven't run this spot yet, but my guess is that a solver is going to use this hand as a mix 3 options if you give them 2 flop sizing's, block, c fold, and c/call at a smaller frequency. I would guess we C/fold somewhere between 50-60 person of our KKxx hands without diamonds, and that this particular hand mixes at around 50/50 due to the lack of diamond but containing a 2 pair blocker.
I don't think we can just check fold 100% to a pot bet justified by future play-ability fear and a minor range equity advantage despite the polarity disadvantage. Traveling with only a lap top for a bit but if someone runs this would be interested to see the results
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