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4 Table $50/$100 PLO (part 3)

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Phil Galfond

POSTED Nov 03, 2014

Phil is back with part 3 of his $50/$100 session review.

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midori 10 years, 5 months ago

Cool vid as usual, Phil.

You said it would be nice if the following spot can be studied in the comment section:

I'm too tired to work on it now, but will try to crunch some numbers over this weekend. Posting this now so that I don't forget. :)

LogicDeception 10 years, 5 months ago

Amazing video as always Phil. I'm always learning one or more new good things; thoughts or concepts in every video you make.
One interesting thought I have so far is on the bottom-left table at 12:00 where you flop the nut straight against HC and Genius. I really like your analysis and how you're thinking about the hand and how you play it. Although, you do say that HC shouldn't have a strong hand very often when he just calls your small bet, which I also think is true, however wouldn't it be a very good spot for him to just call here with his 85xx with no redraw? Since he is playing at that level I assume that he is good enough to be thinking about the situation similar to you (and Genius), and knowing that you like to bluff a lot in these spots and that it's possible for Genius to be check-raise bluffing, and for you to occasionally even click it back with your bluffs, would seem like a very good spot for him to slowplay and just call.
With the nuts no redraw he doesn't need to protect against your bluffs and he don't have to worry about losing value from a freeroll (if you do have the nuts). He might even avoid it himself against hands like you did have. Also, he doesn't "have to" protect against your other value-hands, like a set or two pair, since you're not improving on most turns, and especially compared to the benefit of ending up in that re-raise situation between you and Genius. The other benefit for him is that even if Genius doesn't c/r and decides to call or fold it's not a very bad spot for him either, since you would put him on a weak hand most of the time and be likely to keep bluffing him on brick turns.
And he can choose to raise the flop with the 85xx hands that do have a redraw to balance it out, or choose to raise with 85xx no redraw some of the time as well.

Personally I do like to just call in spots like these with nuts no redraw on locked-down boards in a multiway pot, at least some of the time. Even though my opponent's aren't thinking at a very high level, so the reasons why wouldn't be the same, I do think it's a good spot to slowplay and hope for a brick turn to get the money in on or if a scare-card does hit you just have to re-evaluate the situation and take it from there.

Overall I think it can be a very profitable way to play the hand in a lot of these spots.

Thoughts?

guizzz 10 years, 4 months ago

Hi Guys,
I have a question about the turn sizing on the bottom left @18:40 with the second nut straight.
Phil, you bet 1/3rd of the pot giving his flush draws quite good odds.(20% equity required and as you don't block any spade a naked flush draw may have 22.5%).
Can't we find a better sizing for protection, let's say between half to 2/3rd pot?
Cheers

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