2 Table $100/$200 PLO + 2 PLO MTT's (part 1)
Posted by Phil Galfond
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Can someone tell me what players colors mean here or give me a link to explaination?
Phil has attempted to explain the colors in previous videos, basically arriving at: the colors mean different things for different players. You probably won't be losing any value from the video if you disregard the colors completely :)
Jonna is correct. My color definitions are very nebulous.
In fact, during this session I changed 2-3 of the players colors because there were too many red players and I needed to be able to quickly identify who was where.
I'm particularly interested in your open limping strategy. You briefly mentioned that you will have enough board coverage so opponents shouldn't be attacking that much but isn't it obvious we completely whiff/weak on high boards?
How high of a defense (%) should BB have before we start considering an open limping strategy?
Great questions, Static.
I will have slightly less board coverage on high boards, but I still have hands like QJJ4 and KQT2 (single suited and rainbow). To be entirely honest, open limping is something I've only started doing this month and I'm still working out the kinks. I look forward to hearing more questions and comments so that I can further refine my strategy!
I've been starting to open limp against anyone who's defending over 80% vs. a button steal, but I think it's also good to be wary of short stacks in the bb/sb and start open limping some more in those situations.
I Think that it is good to bring the small blinds tendencies in to the equation when you decide to limp on the button. Like if he is very lose aswell or three bets a lot. Unless they are tight postflop.
If we steal a lot on the button with our entire range anyway our range would still be weak on high boards in three bet pots right? And if we limp most very weak TT,JJ,QQ and KKxx We can slow roll on dry high boards if we think we will face a lot of barrels. And as a side bonus we get more maneuverability on the boards that we believe will miss his/her range.
I think it might be ok to open limp some hands from the CO aswell if the DB is tough and maybe still consider how BB and SB playes. Or will it be to unbalanced versus good players if we still want to raise the strongest part of our range?
How about if the players behind us are unknown? Maybe we should limp from all positions with some part of our range aswell. Or is it better to play a tighter range?
Phil would you make any changes in your limping strategy if you played at small or micro stakes?
Sorry about my bad English
seeittwice,
You make some good points and pose some good questions. I've only just started open limping, so I'm not 100% confident in the hands and situations that I choose. I'm just doing the best I can :)
I think that if we have a hand too weak to raise from the CO, we likely want to fold it. That said, perhaps there's room for a good CO limping strategy too. I think UTG limping is something that can work and make sense.
In small/micro stakes, I wouldn't open limp. Players fold their BB far too often and I want to raise and take advantage of that.
40s in bottom right is that Mushmellow I see? :D
Coming over from the Transitioning to PLO playlist.
Vs Ike, you defend IP with Q972sssx and he checks 732r.
You check back and what I hear makes sense to me. You're giving up some % of ev that comes as folds in order to get more ev from turns that Ike catches up in some degree, or you're doing it to strengthen your checking range on a lot of turns, or both.
You raised the turn 6ss and never mention at all Ike having 45xx here. My takeaway from that is that at least at the time, you assume Ike would never ck the flop with 45, or it was inconsequential enough relative to the rest of his range that you don't mention it, or it was assumed as basic info he of course could have some nuts but that's not that important, or it was a fluke that you didn't mention it, I imagine all of that goes out the window if Ike was 40bb's. Was it/is it common to short stack in PLO?
I'm a live NL player almost primarily, having transitioned from mtt's 5 years ago, and now have the opportunity to work with a PLO pro in my area. I want to absorb more than I miss from the opportunity. I apologize if my questions aren't the right questions, or are too simple, or irrelevant.
I think it's possible Ike has 45 in that spot, but it will be a very small percentage of his overall range. Against a larger bet, I may just call, but my hand is too strong to put only 1/3 pot in on the turn here. I have excellent equity against his full range, and I don't run a serious risk of being 3bet, so I decided to raise for value (with an element of protection as well).
Good luck on your journey into the great game of PLO :)
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