Coach Clash: Paul Atwal vs Nuno Alvarez
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This was some of the most fun I've had making a video. Huge thanks to Nuno Alvarez for his time and to Aaron Nadell for his crafty editing.
My pleasure. It was indeed a lot of fun. Hope you guys enjoy it!
Outstanding video guys! You had such a great dynamic going on and this format made it a lot easier for me as a 6max player to engage with HU content. Looking forward to the next part.
Guys this format is really good, I think both of you did great job with the thought process explanations. You nailed all the important aspects of the hands played I think.How many parts are you going to give us?
The footage of us actually playing is about an hour long. I think in part 1 we covered about 15 mins of it haha. While we'll aim for a faster pace next time, I'm not sure how many total parts there'll be. We still need to record part 2.
Cool video guys!
Liked the format...good idea from both of you!
Looking forward for next parts
Awesome video! loved the format
Great video guys!
@36:30, do you really think OOP should lead with Ax here? IP also has many aces due to the small flop cbet (and not many worse hands are calling the river lead) and the ace is so much of a good bluffing card for the IP, wouldn`t it be better to check call instead?
When you lead, you represent basically the deuce or air, so I think it is indeed a good bluffing spot for the IP - but with the problem that he also doesn't represent much, opening himself to being rebluffed by a competent oponent...
Hey str,
If this were true, OOP should go crazy with bluffs. IP has tons of PP, Qx, 4x, and K-high that will be forced to call sometimes.
I disagree. I think OOP represents hardly any 2x, and is instead going to betting mostly Ax here for value. OOP checking his whole range would be too weak here since he's going to miss a ton of value from IP's marginal bluff-catchers. Further, OOP can't just check down hands like this (9 high) all the time either.
Just reviewed the hand on PIO and seems like OOP is supposed to play his whole betting range using a blockbet size which makes sense since that allows him to valuebet Qx that is a big part of his range and it benefits from getting value from a big part of Kx from IP player.
PS: My hand it’s too loose to peel on the flop as well. 89o (one heart) seems to be the stone bottom of OOP flop calling range.
Guys, tks for the replys! Gotta say even myself wasn`t pretty happy with my previous post. ;)
Anyways, I ran a PIO simulation, some interesting stuff:
- OTF, 9h6s is mainly calling (66%) vs the small cbet, sometimes folding and sometimes raising (17% each); 9h8s is both calling and raising (53/42%), almost never folding; 9hTs is mainly raising (80%), with 18% call and 2% fold.
- OTT 8s7s is mainly betting (70% freq.), mostly on the large side;
- OTR OOP leads 44% of the time, both value and bluff. His Ax are indeed mostly betting (around 2/3 of the time). When OOP leads, IP calls with all K, some J (some raise) and all PPs. His Ax are mainly raised. - If OOP checks, IP bets half of the time, almost always large (I gave the options to bet 30/70% pot, its frequencies are 2/48%). He bets the A/Q obviously and also ALL PPs, which I found pretty interesting (even 33 bets more than 70% of the time). 8s7s bets 98% if checked to, almost always the big size. He mainly checks his K/J, bluffing only his Ts or lower.
- Apparently the EV of checking and leading the Ax hands are roughly the same (if I understood correctly), leading being very slightly +EV.
do u allow OOP to bet river small size like 25-33% ?
i think EVs gonna be close anyway, but if u start checking all your Ax
your checking range will be stronger, villian should valuebet less -> bluff less
and checking now gonna be worse, i mean frequencies are important even with similar EV
If I remember correctly I gave 2 sizes, like 30/80%.
Did you guys actually play for money or was it like a coaching seasion for Paul?
We just played to make the video. We chose to play 100NL because we obviously didn’t wanted to get each other’s money or anything like that haha.
Plus 100nl is the highest stake you can play in a private club
Hi,
When Paul has A8c and Nuno had Q10s. Why did Paul not bet the turn card? FLOP: 5s 2d 8d 7s
Surely he has to bet on the turn here, was checking a mistake?
Please advise.
Thanks.
In the video at 12:00 you advocate beting small on Jxx boards. I feel like this is a big thing for me to learn so I'm wondering, does that apply for 2tone? Where do I draw the line with the "xx" like what typ of boards does not count as J"xx"?
At 43:16, would including 32cc in a leading range be bad? It seems like a prime candidate to turn into a bluff imo. It makes sense for BB to lead on a 6 o get value from 77-AA, since those are checking back river when BB has 6x or Tx
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