$100PLO Zoom: An Oldschool Live Session
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Nice video Paul. Two tables of zoom kept me interested.
For me, I found my BB defense is different than yours. I wouldn't have found the 3b with AJ96ds against the tight BTN open. I also fold the TT82ss against the BTN open so thanks for showing me I'm not defending enough.
In the hand where you defend the J755r (I fold even getting a good price multiway), I understand why you don't want to check call with the open ender flush draw blocker but I just don't see the flop stab getting through enough to make this profitable. Perhaps I play too passively and don't find enough weak hands to stab?
At 26:38 you flat MP vs EP 3x open with AK74ds. Is this an exploit against the non pot open from an unknown? I tend to play very tight/aggressive at 100 and would love to find spots like this to learn how to open up profitably.
Thank you for the video
Hey, the AJ96$ds is more a call then a 3bet so vs a tight BTN open it should be a call.
Population usually opens less than a solver from the BTN so you should 3bet less than GTO vs most opponents.
The TT82$ss is a standard call vs BTN, maybe you are overfolding in that spot, a lot of players do.
Vs a min raise, you should call around 90% of hands and if the pot is 3 way maybe around 80%.
The AK74$ds hand is not a great 3bet vs a tight position and from the sample I had with the player that opened he was very tight.
Thank you for the feedback.
Good luck!
Paul,
Nice video. At ~24:00 you have AdQdJh9s on board of 9dQs8s3cJc facing roughly 2/3 pot size bet and choose to fold. Curious what your calling threshold is in this spot? I assume not much raising here with main bluff being TTxx? Interesting because this is probably villains main bluff so having TT blocks value and bluffs? Interested in your thoughts on each players bluffing candidates as well as villains value betting threshold.
Thanks Paul.
First, you need to understand that this situation will work very different in reality than in theory, population will need to find bluffs that have showdown value and that are not intuitive, hands like KK or KQ and hands like K876 or AK32 with a flush draw.
In the video you cannot see the stats of the player, he was very tight and a nitty player (in most cases the Vpip of the player will be directly proportional with his aggression) and vs such a profile I will fold everything except a straight.
From a theory perspective, our hand is a very good calling candidate blocking pairs that block his showdown value.
Paul,
At 36:00 you have ATT2hhdd on Acjhh5Qh5s and you mention that villain is pretty passive before checking river saying that maybe they will bluff but you don't know. Curious what you do here if you face a bet from villain. Seems like check calling is not a great option vs passive opponent that doesn't bluff enough and won't value bet worse. What do you think about just betting small on river? Villain probably not the type to bluff raise this spot so you could fold to raise. Argument against betting could be that villain overfolds. Interesting situation.
Thanks Paul
The player was very nitty with his 3bets and passive post flop but he can still have some bluffs, especially when the River is a good card for his range.
He can level himself into thinking that after he checks flop and turn, he still has enough slow plays in his range to go for a river bluff, which in reality he doesn't, because players in that profile are hungry for value and protection.
The most likely scenario is that he just has an air ball after he doesn't cbet such a good board for his range on the flop and I would 100% call any bet sizing on the River.
Block betting on River would make sense if you think that will make him more likely to turn some hands into bluffs, but he's not the right profile and if I'm blocking in the river with my hand I'm not folding vs a raise in this node.
Great live play. Hope to see more.
2:55 table 1 a864, the structure seems weak with bottom and top gap in the 3 card rundown. Add in we are oop, is this call making much?
4:05 table 2 q987 on the ace turn would we prefer to bet polar and go pot?
8:30 table 1 at88 if the river bricked are you bluffing or does the 88 have enough sdv to check?
26:00 table 1 aq44 this board seems very dynamic. Wouldn't you prefer to polarize here and check our hand?
Thanks!
2:55 A864$Ds - I don't think is making much, but it is enough for me to play it.
Usually, sims in Vision don't have rake back included, which means you can play a little looser than the solver suggests in some spots.
4:05 Q987$ds - You can choose whatever sizing you want on such a good card, the advantage of going small is it will be very hard for the oop player to meet MDF vs it and that you can barrel river wider.
8:30 AT88$ss - They don't have enough SDV and I think I should have bet the turn also.
26 AQ44 - I think you can bet bigger on the flop also, but checking doesn't make any sense, since you still have to x/fold and the chances of winning at showdown are very low.
Hey Paul,
Thanks for the responses.
Regarding 26:00, yeah I would check to check fold flop. To me, we are oop with a dynamic board and our visibility sucks. If we bet flop we fold to a raise anyway I feel. I don't think we have good cards for future playability and don't have any additional eq.
In theory it would be ok, but in practice I don't like the check.
First I use a smaller sizing with all my range that let's me cbet a higher frequency and second reason why I would bet is the population response on these type of boards vs a cbet, which is raise less than fold more than a solver.
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