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Paul Reviews His Student at $200 Rush PLO (Part 2)

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POSTED Sep 16, 2023

Paul Today continues to review his student at $200 Rush on GG working his way through a two table session that sees plenty of hands and a variety of situations.

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Sgeorgiev 1 year, 6 months ago

Thanks for the video! Minute 23 A765ds - isnt that a very standard cold 4bet?

Paul Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Hey, in theory, it is, but it relies on a lot of fold equity and I don't know if we have it. Usually not, but in this case, maybe, all the players seem regulars in the hand, but the 4bet it's marginal even if everything goes like a GTO environment. The initial raiser looks tide and it's common for tide players to open MP a range of around 12 to 18% if that's the case in this situation then our hand is already losing money with the cold 4bet.
Thank you for your feedback!

damngood 1 year, 6 months ago

Hi! Minute 11 - T987 on J32.

Do we prefer a large bet due to the fact that we have a generally stronger range on a dry, not too connected board? Would 1/3 pot bet not achieve a similar result?

We shut down on most turn cards if the cbet gets called, right?

Thanks!

Paul Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Hey, usually as a 3bettor on dry rainbow textures, especially with the top card J or lower, we really like the POT bet IP, and if we are OOP we like it even more.
If you want to use the 1/3 in this situation, you should combine it with Pot also, for sure you need 2 sizings on this board textures, I use 1/2 and Pot, so you can 1/3 and Pot, and that would still probably be fine.
Maybe the population will still overfold to 1/3 bet but the results won't be similar to the pot bet. The population overfolds to the pot bet, and they are right to do so because the population doesn't Cbet bluff enough, and usually when they pot, they go with the hand, they don't bet fold. So we have to make sure, we have enough Cbets Pot as bluffs in this kind of situations.

We can still bet small/fold on a turn A or 3 for example, on a Q,t,9,8,7 rainbow, or with our BDFD we can still pot, so we have quite a few turns we can still barrel, but we do check on a decent amount of them with our specific combo.

SoundSpeed 1 year, 6 months ago

Great series. Please do another part.

3:10 table 2 how do you feel about cutoffs post flop play with the wrap? Should he raise flop, or once hero raises flop should he just get it in?

5:25 tabke 2 kk85 if btn bet and utg1 calls should we find a fold? If utg1 folds even then we are oop maybe we should find a fold?

14:25 table 2 att5 this seems like a loose cbet in a 3 way pot.

16:18 table 2 a876 with a suited ace hero clicks auto fold. This seems like a big mistake. Besides the fact that there was no action yet, if there was a raise from any position is this a hand at least a call, and maybe a 3bet vs btn?

16:35 table 1 kkq2 do you play if double suited and do you prefer a squeeze rather than call?

Thanks!

Paul Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

Min 3:10 - I think calling with AT87 it's the way to go, if I had JT87, blocking top set and adding a lot more equity to the hand, raising it's more attractive, but with our easily dominated wrap I like to play it passively in this situation.

5:25 I think all options are decent, my favorite ones would be to raise if BTN bets and UTG calls, and if UTG folds, to call.

14:25 On that board with the 33% sizing, I think it's good, it's a way better option than checking IMO. We are going to fold out hands with equity vs. our hand and we are getting raised very infrequently on that board and we still can make some moves on turns with our sidecard TT, 5 BDFD.

16:18 It was rainbow.

16:35 KKQ2$ds I would Squeeze.

Another part it's already finished and it will probably be released soon.

Thank you for your feedback!

BlankyLion 1 year, 6 months ago

13:45

0) I know that pot size Rfi is the standard , and also pot size 3B and pot size 4B standard too?
so after 4B , there's nothing to play other bet size than shove on UTG's perspective.

1) So here in NLHE UTG has AK, KK+ advantage. but in PLO UTG doesn't have that much Kx here in their 4B range? and even CO could have some slowplay AA too?

2) The reason that you said this is pretty good call is that because CO blocks UTG's AA and still has some BDFD+BDSD redraw?

Thanks for the nice video!

Paul Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

0) Since equities run so close in plo you want to 3bet and 4bet only a POT sizing. The RFI sizing is standard POT but you can use other sizings also, if you are short for example, or play vs. a short stack, you can use smaller sizings. In the video, I mentioned that you can split your range into 2 sizings, even on this board, if you happen to have 2pairs+, AA45, or AA + gutter+ 2DDFD you can go with the 25% sizing, or even smaller and balance them with some bluffs, but it will be small frequency.

1) In theory CO will have some AA, but in practice almost never, we are just crushing in the AA department as UTG in theory and in practice even more.
Any pair will get shoved as oop and any pair will get called by the IP player, nobody should have too many 2 pairs+ on this board and one pair has enough equity vs. our 4bet range which is mostly AA.
In this situation, it doesn't matter too much who has more AK or Kx, because the money is getting in with any pair, a hand like JT92 will be a 100% call, and even a gutshot with 2BDFD will call range, so the villain's hand in the video with pair+ gutter+2bdfd it's an easy call.

BlankyLion 1 year, 6 months ago

36:04
Here why this K OTT is bad card for our range?
this is just pure curiousity because in NLHE SB crushes BTN's range on this turn.

37:29
on table 1 , K9 is not good enough to raise vs SB's CB then we need some extra equity to gii?
so let's say we got AsJsKc9c which is absolutely strong ( nut flush draw + top two pair) ,This type of hand doesn't need protection at all, so it looks like call only, so what is our bottom raise range vs SB's CB OTF? maybe naked 88 or 99 ?

I don't know much about plo and I wrote based on my knowledge in nlhe and if there is anything wrong to apply in plo please let me know.

And this video type is absolutely helpful for me to learn PLO. really want to see part2.
Thanks for the great video!

Paul Toda 1 year, 6 months ago

36:04 On turn K there is an equity shift, we are Cbetting a lot on the flop because the board is so good for our range, but when we get called, a lot of IP range will be Kx.
Actually, the K is so bad for our range that we should check range as the OOP.

37:29
K9 with a gut shot and a flush blocker should be enough to get it in and probably close to the bottom of our range, which in PLO is not easy to define because we have many combo draws. A hand like QJT9 with an FD blocker will also probably make it into our raising range.
Naked 88 and 99 I like them as calls, we are doing good vs. his C-betting range, but once the money goes in we are not doing great. K99 and K88 would be a good raise, blocking top set, I would call the rest.
AsJsKc9c looks like a good combo to slowplay, I agree.

This is actually part 2, so there is a part 1 also and part 3 will be released soon.

Thank you for the feedback!

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