This was extremely educational and entertaining too. A clinic on exploiting recreational players. I love how clearly you explain your thought process and reasoning.
An alternate title could've been "Limped Pots with werner333" ��.
12:46 -- You say AJo isn't a good hand to squeeze since the opponents are shorter stacked. What kinds of hands do you prefer squeezing with in this scenario?
24:34 -- Very useful info about recreational players' donk size being indicative of their hand strength. I'm always at a loss facing that action.
35:05 -- Nice use of emoji ��. Then it is fascinating to hear how you determine that villain has capped himself, are able to narrow his range down so precisely and accurately, then get extra value with a river raise.
Looking forward to part two, especially for the emoji battles with werner.
For the squeeze spot facing a shorter stack, you want to go for a more polarized 3bet strat. This way, you are getting value from the top portion of your range and when you are bluffing and get shoved on, you are not facing a difficult decision. Blocking a shoving range is good, hands like K9s, A3s, J9s, hands that are comfortable folding to a shoving range but play reasonably well if called and give you some funky hands in different postflop spots against the bigger stacks.
Thanks for the positive feedback seagullhead, glad you enjoyed the video.
12:46 - I think i would prefer to start squeezing at around AQo so that there's a few more combos of dominated Ax hands in Murts potential calling range and just be quite linear here especially with foxtrot behind who can find jams when Murt folds.
35:05 - Thanks :) yea i think there are quite a lot of these spots that can occur vs receationals and weaker regs at micro stakes where their sizing is really indicative of their hand and as this read gets confirmed i think we can really exploit it to boost our winrate.
Entertaining video with some nice exploitative adjustments in game. At around the 26 minute mark, the JTs seems like standard check back on a 4 liner and 3 flush, going for value seems too thin against two opponents. What do you think would be the value bet threshold in that spot against two opponents in this game? If TPGK, is it crucial to have a club?
Yea it is for sure just an easy check back on that turn, probably the worst turn in the deck so despite me moving the bet slider here i would never bet this hand on this turn 3 ways. However i think if the turn is a 5h then a bet can become much more reasonable against recreationals.
Yea nice question, so multiway i would value having equity over hand strength so JT>AT and as you mention i would also want to have a club so against two recreationals i wouldn't hate a small bet with JTo with the Jc but it think mostly checking back with any top pair will be good.
I personally wouldn't play a strategy like that against two recreationals because when you squeeze the hands you listed you're supposed to be getting both players to fold better hands whilst blocking some of their jamming range, so for example at 40bb JTs/KQo/AJo/A9s/ATs etc. are all supposed to be folds pre vs your squeeze but recreationals may just start jamming these hands which isn't great for the hands you mention. Then also you mention that this will mean we get value with the top of our range, but against recreationals the top of our range will overperform anyway because they will both jam too wide and call too wide vs 3bets.
Nice one Paul, the overcall issue I believe is a huge misconception for lots of players with the "pot odds myth" (I was guilty of that when I was playing low stakes too). Glad you bring it up and explain clearly!
Thanks a lot Paul Gough that was a great video.
at 27:28 w/ ATo : I'm not confortable yet to call on this spot bb even after sb calling. I tend to either sqeeze or fold depending the players. also w/ KTo-KQo. In HU situation vs utg I would mostly fold or few 3b light vs standard regs, call w/ KQo.
Keep in mind that when you have ATo here yes you will be dominated by UTGs AJ+ but you will dominate their A9s and below. You also will dominate their worse Tx hands and more importantly you'll dominate the super wide Ax and Tx range of a recreational when you close the action. Also If you're studying and improving, you'll likely be able to gauge when you're dominating/dominated and play accordingly. I would say playing these close hands more often will also help build your confidence postflop. glgl :)
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This was extremely educational and entertaining too. A clinic on exploiting recreational players. I love how clearly you explain your thought process and reasoning.
An alternate title could've been "Limped Pots with werner333" ��.
12:46 -- You say AJo isn't a good hand to squeeze since the opponents are shorter stacked. What kinds of hands do you prefer squeezing with in this scenario?
24:34 -- Very useful info about recreational players' donk size being indicative of their hand strength. I'm always at a loss facing that action.
35:05 -- Nice use of emoji ��. Then it is fascinating to hear how you determine that villain has capped himself, are able to narrow his range down so precisely and accurately, then get extra value with a river raise.
Looking forward to part two, especially for the emoji battles with werner.
For the squeeze spot facing a shorter stack, you want to go for a more polarized 3bet strat. This way, you are getting value from the top portion of your range and when you are bluffing and get shoved on, you are not facing a difficult decision. Blocking a shoving range is good, hands like K9s, A3s, J9s, hands that are comfortable folding to a shoving range but play reasonably well if called and give you some funky hands in different postflop spots against the bigger stacks.
Thanks for the positive feedback seagullhead, glad you enjoyed the video.
12:46 - I think i would prefer to start squeezing at around AQo so that there's a few more combos of dominated Ax hands in Murts potential calling range and just be quite linear here especially with foxtrot behind who can find jams when Murt folds.
35:05 - Thanks :) yea i think there are quite a lot of these spots that can occur vs receationals and weaker regs at micro stakes where their sizing is really indicative of their hand and as this read gets confirmed i think we can really exploit it to boost our winrate.
Haha, yea we get into a bunch of pots :D
Entertaining video with some nice exploitative adjustments in game. At around the 26 minute mark, the JTs seems like standard check back on a 4 liner and 3 flush, going for value seems too thin against two opponents. What do you think would be the value bet threshold in that spot against two opponents in this game? If TPGK, is it crucial to have a club?
Yea it is for sure just an easy check back on that turn, probably the worst turn in the deck so despite me moving the bet slider here i would never bet this hand on this turn 3 ways. However i think if the turn is a 5h then a bet can become much more reasonable against recreationals.
Yea nice question, so multiway i would value having equity over hand strength so JT>AT and as you mention i would also want to have a club so against two recreationals i wouldn't hate a small bet with JTo with the Jc but it think mostly checking back with any top pair will be good.
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I personally wouldn't play a strategy like that against two recreationals because when you squeeze the hands you listed you're supposed to be getting both players to fold better hands whilst blocking some of their jamming range, so for example at 40bb JTs/KQo/AJo/A9s/ATs etc. are all supposed to be folds pre vs your squeeze but recreationals may just start jamming these hands which isn't great for the hands you mention. Then also you mention that this will mean we get value with the top of our range, but against recreationals the top of our range will overperform anyway because they will both jam too wide and call too wide vs 3bets.
Nice one Paul, the overcall issue I believe is a huge misconception for lots of players with the "pot odds myth" (I was guilty of that when I was playing low stakes too). Glad you bring it up and explain clearly!
Timestamp when he goes over this? I don't recall this part of the video and it sounds like something useful for me.
Hey, starting from 10:50 the K2s hand seagullhead
Hey, thanks mx404 . That's right, I remember now! Very useful to know. I definitely tend to fall in this trap myself way too often. Cheers.
Nice video, really enjoyed it. Thanks for stopping by! And teaching us NLHE
Thanks a lot Paul Gough that was a great video.
at 27:28 w/ ATo : I'm not confortable yet to call on this spot bb even after sb calling. I tend to either sqeeze or fold depending the players. also w/ KTo-KQo. In HU situation vs utg I would mostly fold or few 3b light vs standard regs, call w/ KQo.
Thanks for the feedback. What is it about calling here with ATo that makes you feel uncomfortable?
It's about facing hands with better kickers
Keep in mind that when you have ATo here yes you will be dominated by UTGs AJ+ but you will dominate their A9s and below. You also will dominate their worse Tx hands and more importantly you'll dominate the super wide Ax and Tx range of a recreational when you close the action. Also If you're studying and improving, you'll likely be able to gauge when you're dominating/dominated and play accordingly. I would say playing these close hands more often will also help build your confidence postflop. glgl :)
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