Drilling a Common Spot
Posted by Patrick Sekinger
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With Lucid you imported your own PIO sims into it? Have a buddy who is using H2N to do mass data analysis on the pool. Would you advise sticking to GTO ranges or uploading the actual ranges and tendencies the pool is playing for more of an exploit strategy? I find it might cap you from moving up and hurt your overall strategy, but maximize profits current level.
Do you have a schedule in which spots you drill? I.e Monday BU vs BB SRP, Tuesday Bu vs CO 3BP, etc. I think in terms of a schedule to follow would be nice to have some type of syllabus poker players can work through to improve their game starting with the most common spots first and then working through more advanced things. I remember Ciche Hunter wrote a book that went hand in hand with snowie. Would be nice to have a more modern poker book like this, where it is not just reading, but also work through the book to improve your game. Book requirement would be you have to purchase Lucid, GTO+, wizard, PIO, etc. Something you can drill certain nodes. James Sweeny also has a similar "workbook" where you learn a lot about ranges and you fill out the book with a bunch of math work as you work through it. Would be great to have one of these type of books for current programs.
Yes, imported my own sims into it. I train Lucid for studying my own gameplan and sizings, this is developed considering both exploitative and theoretical sizings it doesnt have to be one or the other.
I dont have a schedule for studying specific nodes but it could definitely work really well
8:30 is a spot humans are not finding almost ever. You mention on a lot of run outs T9 can not get 2 streets of value because Q, J, Diamond, or spade hitting the river. Seems to be a great spot to charge all of these draws. Where if you bet the turn, I don't think many people are finding enough check raises to put you in a difficult spot after they check twice (flop being XX) and then if they XC turn, them finding donk bets on the river should be a low frequency as well. Might be a spot where my turn frequency is a tad too high and river frequency is a tad too low. Checking back two pair here but betting other hands such as Kx, QQ, JJ, two pair and even some QT seems counter productive.
Patrick Sekinger Going off my response above, is T9 checking back, so if the board bricks out and opponent bets, then T9 can raise the river?
I may have answered my own question here. Personally I am not finding enough river raises in a XX-XX-Bet / raise line with all KX raising as well as some QQ JJ and then bluff combos for diamonds or spades Q8d J7s etc.
Its going to be a combination of the hands equity on all runouts (and future ability to value bet), ev loss when facing a xr and its high ev as a bluffcatcher in the xb line and the ability to raise blank rivers vs smaller/normal probe sizings
20 min BU vs BB when flop goes XC, then bot bets 15% 2.1 into 13.9 on the turn with range!!!! That was an eye opener.
Some of these bet - bet - shove or XC - XX - XRAI for 3-5x pot is pretty crazy to see, almost never see pool doing anything like this. Great tool to have in your box though.
More videos like this with other common formations please.
Hey Patrick
Where can I find information on how to run independent solves from certain nodes AND upload my own sims. I bought Lucid about a month ago and am just using the cloud sims bc Im having difficulty figuring out the other stuff.
Thanks!
I run my own solves in PioSolver, save them to a folder on my harddrive. Navigate to Local sims -> add new sim and then complete the information there. Once youve done this you can then use the 'create a drill' function in Lucid. Its pretty self explanatory, just choose the node you want to work with and go from there.
Liked this format a lot. Perhaps in the future you could do a video where we drill some oop spots as pfr or 3bettor. Thanks.
Hey Patrick great video.
At the 25 minute mark, the A8s hand, Qing Yang recently did a video analyzing these exacts spots using lucid. I suggest watching as he explains these spots very well. It is his latest video: Probing turn ft. LucidGTO
But essentially what happens in these spots where the turn is an overcard
(Non Ax / Flush) OOP chooses to only use a small size, reason being is that OOP does not have a massive nut advantage anymore (relative to say a 7x/5x turn) but does has a lot weaker pairs that want to bet for protection/value. So because our nut hands are relatively few combonations they get quickly exhausted when we bring them down to protect our small turn probe range so we just dont have the combinations of value to overbet this spot.
Hopefully i explained this well but i would suggest watching his video.
Hey, glad you enjoyed the video.
I'll be sure to check it out!
Hello Patrick, how did you only have the program use 1 bet sizing on the flop for different textures. For example the 1/3 is primarily used on paired and that was the only option available. while on some higher connected boards the only option allowed was 1/2pot. Im assuming when you ran your sim you included the multiple flop sizings, just wondering how the program gets it to only use one sizing. I think the one flop sizing per textures is highly beneficial.
This was as a result of me including only 1 flop sizing in the sim, rather then me changing some settings in the trainer. So I just included the flop sizing I wanted to study on each texture
Nice video. I think it would have been even better to focus on one part of the game tree, being in the BB vs cbets etc so we can begin to find some patterns across different boards.
Are you always just playing 1 flop sizing? What about on the turn / river?
Thanks again
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