2:54 any thoughts on calling the 2x pot bet and donking river on any heart, diamond, ace, or 9? k53Thhdd board. Hero QdJh.
20min mark 65s SB vs 2bb HJ open. You said you would like to see a call here vs a rec. Are you considering the fact rec is only 40bb effective?
26:30 table 1 3bet BB AQ vs btn. Cbet 1\3 on K64r. Would like to hear your thoughts on what cards you are barreling or continue on with different sizes and lines. Like T or J are you sizing up turn bets or block betting? On A or Q are you ever checking? Then of course WHY you are doing these things.
Cant seem to add snap shot, but also would be great if you can go over your hud stats. Would be nice to hear what you think avg stats for vpip, pfr, 3bet, cbet stats should look like overall or by position. Im seeing players from 17% vpip some videos to 33% other videos and 3bets from super nitty 4% to 18%. BitEazy vs sauce123 in some of his 50\100 games, believe they were 5 handed, but Bit2Easy had hud stats of 33\25\18 which seems crazy to me, but hes one of the best I think..not sure if this is because 4-5 handed or also his six max stats.
On your PIO sims looks like you're opening K8o, J8o, & 98o on btn and folding Q8o. Why is this? Also I notice 85s and 64s are folding button. Lower stakes (100NL) do you think these hands 8Xo are profitable opens? 2.5bb 3bb?
2:54: I think this would be spewy, IP has many FDs as part of their bluffing barrel range so not even sure it makes that much sense to have leads on flushes, especially when we have to fold so many FDs to 2x pot to begin with.
20:00 Yes, I think the pot odds are just too good with our postflop skill edge
26:30 I think AQo will barrel blank turns where it has FD blocker at a frequency, barreling often on broadway turns for block or polarised. Depending on personal gameplan should depend whether or not you choose just block/big/2 sizes on these turns. If you wanted to choose a single size, the larger is more appropriate
I would say most players nowadays play stats in the region of 25/20/10 (vpip/pfr/3b) +/- a couple of % each way. Those bit2Easy stats are almost certainly going to be sample biased.
Great video! The hand with AQo bb vs btn when you 3b saying that our 3b frequency with this particular hand is higher when btn opens 3x instead of 2x. Why is that? Thanks
If you think about the BB defense with an arbitrary hand, it's decision will be a function of the following:
1. Range it faces
2. Size of open
Size of open influences decision because a) Vs bigger opens, we get worse pot odds b) vs bigger opens when we 3B and take the pot down preflop we win more money
Im a little confused about our flush blocker effects on these double flush turns. For example in the hand vs Jinmay on Kd 5h 3h Td, you recognized that Kx with Jd would be the lowest ev KJ combo. But in my mind Jd and Jh have the same blocker effect. What is it that makes the Jd worse to have than the Jh?
I believe it is because diamonds that get to the turn are almost pure barreling for IP. If you consider the exact board and OOPs continuing range vs a huge bet a large portion of XXhh that continues will be AXhh/KXhh/TXhh (given these are unblocked by the board) so barreling JXhh isnt so attractive. With JXdd however, since Kd and Td is on the board your flushdraw has far stronger implied odds and so barrels at a much higher frequency
Your content is solid but my only advice would be to trim out the simpler stuff. Like we don’t need a 2 minute explanation on why we should float QJ with a heart on Kxxhh against a block or 2 minutes on why we should 4bet bigger when OOP. Other than that, your content is good : ) . Just save the thorough explanations for the spots they’re warranted.
It’s not because K8,K9 are blocking bluffing region that they are not call imo. The 8c doesn’t really interact a ton with bluffing region, not as a 4 or a 6 does.
Low Kx are calling because the average betting frec from vilain when you hit 2 paires (let’s took K6) is higher than when you have K8, K9.
I expect K9 to not calling because the 9 out is not clean (QJ makes straight).
When the 6 comes on the river , it’s not a card where oop improve , and hthe equity and EV of IP allows him to go for bigger bets, you have two paires with K6, you basically never has str8 in your range,That mean IP can goes for a much polar strat with higher betting frec comparing to other cards of the deck. You will see that if you put 74s and some 42s in bouton range the ev of calling K6 turn is significantly better than K8. Seems weird, because IP has str8 who beat 2paires now on the river when the 6 comes, but actually, IP is allowed to expand his value region and his bet sizing , and agaisnt this strat we are really happy to have those 2p who can beat some thinner hands in IP range who are valuing and obviously beat bluffs.
Tell me if you get my point (and if you agree with this), I don’t know if it’s exactly that in this spot, but I know that Betting frec OtR is something to take care of when we are already in a « bluffcatching mode » on the turn.
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Very interesting hand, Population overfold to turn delay in general, because it’s really difficult to defend well oop. I think in practice we can as IP expand our frecs by betting close to range, especially if OOP doesn’t x enough 5 on the turn, and doesn’t have a high xr frec.
Yes, these are good points wrt KX turn bluffcatchers! Always remember though that it will be a combination of both unblockers to bluffs and implied odds of making 2 pair that generates ev for these.
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2:54 any thoughts on calling the 2x pot bet and donking river on any heart, diamond, ace, or 9? k53Thhdd board. Hero QdJh.
20min mark 65s SB vs 2bb HJ open. You said you would like to see a call here vs a rec. Are you considering the fact rec is only 40bb effective?
26:30 table 1 3bet BB AQ vs btn. Cbet 1\3 on K64r. Would like to hear your thoughts on what cards you are barreling or continue on with different sizes and lines. Like T or J are you sizing up turn bets or block betting? On A or Q are you ever checking? Then of course WHY you are doing these things.
Cant seem to add snap shot, but also would be great if you can go over your hud stats. Would be nice to hear what you think avg stats for vpip, pfr, 3bet, cbet stats should look like overall or by position. Im seeing players from 17% vpip some videos to 33% other videos and 3bets from super nitty 4% to 18%. BitEazy vs sauce123 in some of his 50\100 games, believe they were 5 handed, but Bit2Easy had hud stats of 33\25\18 which seems crazy to me, but hes one of the best I think..not sure if this is because 4-5 handed or also his six max stats.
On your PIO sims looks like you're opening K8o, J8o, & 98o on btn and folding Q8o. Why is this? Also I notice 85s and 64s are folding button. Lower stakes (100NL) do you think these hands 8Xo are profitable opens? 2.5bb 3bb?
Thank you Patrick "Ok Cool" Sekinger
2:54: I think this would be spewy, IP has many FDs as part of their bluffing barrel range so not even sure it makes that much sense to have leads on flushes, especially when we have to fold so many FDs to 2x pot to begin with.
20:00 Yes, I think the pot odds are just too good with our postflop skill edge
26:30 I think AQo will barrel blank turns where it has FD blocker at a frequency, barreling often on broadway turns for block or polarised. Depending on personal gameplan should depend whether or not you choose just block/big/2 sizes on these turns. If you wanted to choose a single size, the larger is more appropriate
I would say most players nowadays play stats in the region of 25/20/10 (vpip/pfr/3b) +/- a couple of % each way. Those bit2Easy stats are almost certainly going to be sample biased.
Ranges I'm using are just basic monker outputs.
Great video! The hand with AQo bb vs btn when you 3b saying that our 3b frequency with this particular hand is higher when btn opens 3x instead of 2x. Why is that? Thanks
If you think about the BB defense with an arbitrary hand, it's decision will be a function of the following:
1. Range it faces
2. Size of open
Size of open influences decision because a) Vs bigger opens, we get worse pot odds b) vs bigger opens when we 3B and take the pot down preflop we win more money
Im a little confused about our flush blocker effects on these double flush turns. For example in the hand vs Jinmay on Kd 5h 3h Td, you recognized that Kx with Jd would be the lowest ev KJ combo. But in my mind Jd and Jh have the same blocker effect. What is it that makes the Jd worse to have than the Jh?
I believe it is because diamonds that get to the turn are almost pure barreling for IP. If you consider the exact board and OOPs continuing range vs a huge bet a large portion of XXhh that continues will be AXhh/KXhh/TXhh (given these are unblocked by the board) so barreling JXhh isnt so attractive. With JXdd however, since Kd and Td is on the board your flushdraw has far stronger implied odds and so barrels at a much higher frequency
Your content is solid but my only advice would be to trim out the simpler stuff. Like we don’t need a 2 minute explanation on why we should float QJ with a heart on Kxxhh against a block or 2 minutes on why we should 4bet bigger when OOP. Other than that, your content is good : ) . Just save the thorough explanations for the spots they’re warranted.
Fair comments, I'll bear this in mind for the future. Feedback like this is always appreciated :)
Nice Video, PIO stuff is appreciated.
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It’s not because K8,K9 are blocking bluffing region that they are not call imo. The 8c doesn’t really interact a ton with bluffing region, not as a 4 or a 6 does.
Low Kx are calling because the average betting frec from vilain when you hit 2 paires (let’s took K6) is higher than when you have K8, K9.
I expect K9 to not calling because the 9 out is not clean (QJ makes straight).
When the 6 comes on the river , it’s not a card where oop improve , and hthe equity and EV of IP allows him to go for bigger bets, you have two paires with K6, you basically never has str8 in your range,That mean IP can goes for a much polar strat with higher betting frec comparing to other cards of the deck. You will see that if you put 74s and some 42s in bouton range the ev of calling K6 turn is significantly better than K8. Seems weird, because IP has str8 who beat 2paires now on the river when the 6 comes, but actually, IP is allowed to expand his value region and his bet sizing , and agaisnt this strat we are really happy to have those 2p who can beat some thinner hands in IP range who are valuing and obviously beat bluffs.
Tell me if you get my point (and if you agree with this), I don’t know if it’s exactly that in this spot, but I know that Betting frec OtR is something to take care of when we are already in a « bluffcatching mode » on the turn.
Last Hand
Very interesting hand, Population overfold to turn delay in general, because it’s really difficult to defend well oop. I think in practice we can as IP expand our frecs by betting close to range, especially if OOP doesn’t x enough 5 on the turn, and doesn’t have a high xr frec.
Yes, these are good points wrt KX turn bluffcatchers! Always remember though that it will be a combination of both unblockers to bluffs and implied odds of making 2 pair that generates ev for these.
49min you made IP(CO) pretty wide preflop. Almost like button.
I am liking a lot your videos man. Keep going!
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