$5k PowerFest PKO
Posted by Grayson Ramage
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Great video as always. Not sure if I would have considered over calling the flop in the 77 hand around the 22 min mark; I may have been inclined to jam right away.. as you mentioned, the flatter can easily be floating with 2 overs/backdoor draws etc. I think he more often has these hands than an over pair (I think he will raise most over pairs on flop). So really it comes down to the initial raiser and given your pre-flop explanation, it does seem like we could feel pretty good about 77s on this particular flop. Calling and assessing on turn does make sense as well, especially with the sizing/pot odds; and a shove becomes clear given the action. I am curious, did you consider getting it in on flop? 3 ways there are definitely a lot of cards we hate to see on turn. What are your thoughts on this line in terms of hand protection? Thanks again for the great content!
Thanks for the question imawhale. I don't believe I really considered it in-game, but I probably should have. I think the main advantage of getting it in on the flop is hand protection, like you said. I doubt that I will be getting many better hands to fold by c/shoving the flop. Although the way the hand played out was perfect for me, I would expect both players to check the turn very often since they should expect me to have good amount of 8x in my range. This also makes shoving flop more appealing since I am often giving 2 free cards to my opponents by just calling flop.
Another excellent video. Thanks Grayson!
Thanks, Soundspeed!
I have a question regarding the bounty math. Are we able to just assume one starting bounty equals half a starting stack and then use this to calculate pot odds? I was under the impression that one bounty = 33% of a starting stack at the beginning of a tournament. So in the beginning of this tournament we would put $2500 into the main prize pool, $1250 in the bounty prize pool (which can be won immediately), and another $1250 which cannot be won until immediately. So, the value of our bounty is $1250/$2500+$1250 = 1/3 of a starting stack.
It seems as though we should be considering other factors such as the stage of the tournament (# of players remaining) and how this impacts the total PKO prize pool. So, as the tournament progresses, the bounty prize pool decreases and the bounty = % of starting stack will increase.
Would love to hear your thoughts on this topic. Thank you!
Calculating the worth of the starting bounty at the beginning of the MTT as being half the stack is definitely wrong. In that case we treat the 5k as a 3.75k
Your other statements are correct aswell.
Thanks for the question, Curtis. Technically, the bounty is worth 50% of a starting stack in this tournament, but you are correct that there are some other factors to consider, and I should not valuing the bounties at a full 50% of a starting stack in most situations. Since Dylan Linde addressed a similar question in one of his videos and gave a very good answer, I'm simply going to paste his response here-
"I think it should be calculated using this logic: if we get 100k starting stack and the starting bounty is 1/2 the buyin then 1/2 the buyin worth of bounty $ is worth 100k chips. Since we get 1/2 of displayed bounty from psko then unadjusted bounty value would be 50k chips for busting a player with starting bounty. Now this value is certainly under a heavy icm effect and should be valued on a sliding scale that is harder to quantify. My guess would be that it is indeed closer to 1/3 but that it slides from somewhere between 25%-50% of starting stack depending on how it effects your stack and future playability"
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