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Hey Dylan - Thanks for the vid - 2 questions:
1 - At about 14:20 in the 55r you discuss shoving the Q9o on the button but I didn't see what you presumed the sb and bb calling ranges to be - can you clue me in on this?
2 - At about 22:58 in the high roller there is a min raise and rice 3 bets, you're in the sb with about 25bb and fold A7o, my question is what are you squeezing with there? My own answer would be ATs+, 66+. Your thoughts?
Lol crap, stupid hotel internet went out and all these replies I made didnt post.
Thanks man :)
1 - I think most people that I dont know will probably be call a little tighter than what is "perfect" play. Sorry that I did not show their ranges for calling int he calc, Ill def do that in the future. Here I think its like strong Kx from sb, KT+ maybe and K9s, all Ax pairs etc. Maybe QJs. Bb is a lot more kx, maybe K8o all Ax, Qjo, JTs, etc
2- I think you are spot on here. Seems reasonable. Im a little unclear on the pair range, but 66 seems possible. 88 is def and 66-77 is where I have a hard time deciding
Thanks for the video! In the A9s hand (at minute 34), don't you think that he is (should be) reshoving way tighter that you say de to the two short stacks? I tend to call in those spot, but villains usually show big hands.
Hey.
I also thought that the reshove range you provided was WAYYYY too loose, especially having said 2 minutes before that the guys were ICM aware. Bad call imo.
Thanks man, glad I could find something good to record :)
To the hand in question. In these situations it is correct for him to be reshoving pretty wide for value/fold equity due to the fact that he still has a lot of fold equity. I think that the range I provided in the HER is fairly accurate, maybe he is defending T9s instead of reshoving, but I dont really expect that. This calculation was made with the payouts included as well. Perhaps he is not reshoving A6o, but Ive been opening fairly wide and he doesnt expect me to just call my entire opening range for sure. If anything I think he might be shoving K9s, KJo among some other random hands like 78s he may make a mistake with that I had assumed werent in his range in this calc.
Pierre, I said that mahmot is icm aware, but as I said above I did account for ICM when I ran the numbers here. Definitely is a bit on the loose side, but you have to remember that I am also getting a very good price even given that he has a stronger than normal range.
Hey Dylan. Nice video. Personally I would have liked if you had shown the tournament lobby at some point during the beginning just to get a better feel of where we are in the tournament and what payout jumps are like.
11:15 You say that KJs has a lot of equity against villain's value range since he has been 3betting so much. What kind of range do you expect him to gii with here?
35:11 With the stack sizes being the way they are I would assume villain to shove much tighter than that. There are two guys under 3BB at the table. Putting myself in villain's shoes I'd be much more concerned about payout jumps than pushing edges on marginal shoves.
1- Right, when I say this I mean the he has to have a wider than normal value range because he is 3b so much. So our KJs does quite well against the expanded range of Ax and pairs that he is inducing with here. So when we couple that with all the times he folds we show a pretty good profit jamming here
2- Check out above reply for my thoughts on this spot. I definitely se eyour guys argument. Just remember we are also getting a very good price and I cant really see him folding most hands included in the range. Also the player hasnt shown any propensity to be defending with a short stack.
Great vid as usual!
Have a question about 75o OTB hand @18:25. You said that it is weak and plays poorly postflop if we get called, but can't we use the guy with 2.5bb (Pichon) to leverage the blinds anyway? They have 14 and 18bb respectively and can't reshove wide, plus the guy on BB plays from phone, which might indicate that he is a recreational player and we will still play IP if the blinds opt to defend. So would not these considerations be enough to try to make that loose steal anyway?
Spot on man, think you might be right. Probably just folded as more of a tempo thing and maybe atc is profitable here.
Thanks :)
Hi Dylan,
About the J9s vs the rejam at around 7 min. Now, because of his perceived lack of fold equity, I doubt that villain is jamming as wide as HRC suggests he should, but assuming that he is, I'm not so sure you can afford to pass up the expected .73 BB of a call. Im dont think I agree with the argument about passing up on this EV because of the way losing would effect the utility of your stack. After all, this is a turbo and I think edges come from taking these "small" EV spots, and you'd still be left with 60k if you call and lose, i.e. more than villain had to start the hand, and therefore, you'd still have decent FE on future rejams. This is my intuition, and its likely wrong, but Id be curious to hear what you and others think.
You have a good point about not passing up on small edges and definitely I can see this. The thing is that I believe we are going to gain more than that expected profit by being able to both leverage larger stacks with rejamming spots when they open loose and being able to steal more blinds as we get closer to the ft or at the ft. Definitely is debatable and is an easy call in the middle of a tournament. Basically my thoughts are the closer we are to where people become worried about ICM considerations the more value we have with stack flexibility.
hey! nice vid...min 28:00 AQs vs prebz.. isnt this a situation where 4bet induce isnt good because of the ICM situation with so many shorter stacks...wouldnt we rather take it down with a shove than having a showdown vs JTs for example or is that logic wrong? thanks
Thanks jay :)
You definitely nailed my original reasoning for jamming here instead of inducing. The only reason that I was thinking that inducing might be better is that people 3b bluffing range tends to include a lot of blocker hands. So many weak Ax and suited Kx suited Qx etc. Im unclear if he would include hands like JTs here to 3b fold instead of just like jam or flat or something. Definitely see it both ways. Basically id only induce there as an exploitive measure because he seemed like he might spew it with A2o or something.
22:52 in the high roller looked like a good spot for a light cold 4bet shove. Somni open CO Rice 3 betts button you have A7o and 25 BBs. Rice was 3betting the button, in a spot where CO is probably opening fairly wide, they are 67 BBs deep and rice can leverage ICM post flop because it is fairly significant if somni busts his 270k stack while there is still a 100k stack on the table and as a reg he would know that. I mean he'll be getting an ok price and he is definitely aware of his own image but I don't think he can just 3bet/call A10 happily and if he is 3bet/folding a hand as strong as AJo than I'd say it's almost a must jam spot. Where do you think his calling range begins?
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