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Parker Muir

POSTED May 19, 2013

Parker shares a curated collection of recent hand histories featuring some memorable and informative plays.

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deadpro 11 years, 11 months ago

hey parker nice video

liked the AA hand v much and i think it s the best play the medium part of your range against a reg like him

how have your results been in zoom this year and how do you feel the games play ?

Parker Muir 11 years, 11 months ago

Thanks. I'm new to zoom this year as I used to play mostly on Lock. I find the 500 games to be decently tough and aggressive, but certainly beatable. 

Jossel 11 years, 11 months ago

If u say he doesn't bluff River in the QQ hand, why can't we fold River to his bet?


Parker Muir 11 years, 11 months ago

Of course if we know he is never bluffing we could fold river. But in this spot, I would like to avoid that if possible, as folding a hand this high up in our range opens us up for quite a bit of easy exploitation.

Juan Copani 11 years, 11 months ago

min14: 22 hand.. 

I don´t agree with the xC range of the recreational player that you defined. Do you really expect that a fish will always bet with a hand like AxJs ? Wouldn´t be a surprise if i see a fish xCalling the flop with that type hand. He could even has 56/57/A5/AT/A4. You are making fold a bunch of Tx, but probably getting call for a decent amount of hands. 

And if his range has too many Tx, then i don´t understand why we don´t try to get our hand to the showdown. Why we bet the flop ? 

I feel like you are trying to rep the A, and taking this amazing oporttunity to take the pot. But i don´t see too many other turns where you can do something after his call. 


Parker Muir 11 years, 11 months ago

I don´t agree with the xC range of the recreational player that you defined.

I'm pretty confident with the type of range I have assigned him. Although I do agree that recreational players can be very unpredictable and thus check/call some unorthodox hands here. 

And if his range has too many Tx, then i don´t understand why we don´t try to get our hand to the showdown. Why we bet the flop ? 

On the flop we can't weight his range to Tx yet. Once he checks the flop to us, his range includes all kinds of stuff that he opens and then opts not to cbet. We bet the flop for a few reasons, but mainly to end the hand against a ton of his checking hands that still have pretty decent equity against our hand.

I feel like you are trying to rep the A, and taking this amazing oporttunity to take the pot.

I am.

But i don´t see too many other turns where you can do something after his call. 

There are quite a few turns that give us options to do something. I can continue barreling my equity on a 3. I can check down a spade turn and win versus some of his range. I can decide whether or not to bluff off on A, K, Q, J. I can bluff an A, K, Q, J  turn and then river a spade and sometimes win after checking back. I can barrel off for value on a 2. And so on...


Rachiid 11 years, 11 months ago

Hi parker,

About the QJs hand at 34 min, do you mind raise-folding the flop or do you think you would give up too much equity ?

His 3-bet on the flop looks really strong with a lot of made hands that crush yours and even when he is semi-bluffing with like J9s, KQs, KJs etc... He not only has a lot of equity but in addition, he will shove many blank turn that you can't bluff catch when he has a semi-bluff and sometimes get your stack on a 8s/Ks turn when he hits the flush because these are not clean outs for you. I think you just play too little cards to call with just a pot-size bet on the turn.



Parker Muir 11 years, 11 months ago

I see what you are saying, but with 6 very clean outs to the nuts and a back door flush draw I don't want to be folding here. I do agree though that we are up against what looks like a very strong range and thus I am proceeding extremely cautiously. 

If the plan is to fold to a flop 3bet, then I really don't like raising in the first place as we are going to have to fold way too much equity when we get 3bet.

R0b5ter 11 years, 11 months ago

24min. KK vs JTs. You state that you think he should be calling your 3bet on the flop instead of jamming. Won't it be a very disgusting spot for him on a lot of turns if he just calls your 3bet? I mean a lot of cards will be good for him but a majority of the deck will still miss him and you will probably be jamming the turn so he will be in a tough spot. So I actually think once he raises and you 3bet he doesn't have much choice but to jam. However just flatting your cbet is definitely an option. Also getting it in on the flop can never be that bad for him equtiy wise. Sure it will be a flip but hardly ever worse than that. 

Nice video by the way. Enjoying all of your videos very much.


Parker Muir 11 years, 11 months ago

Also getting it in on the flop can never be that bad for him equtiy wise. Sure it will be a flip but hardly ever worse than that. 

It's never terrible, but one thing that I wanted to mention in the video but I think I neglected was that I am also going to be 3betting quite a few Ax of diamonds hands here due to the fact that we start the hand 150+ bb deep. At this stack depth I will be more likely to 3bet those types of suited aces and thus have even more NFDs in my range on this flop than usual. All of those will be way ahead of his hand.

You state that you think he should be calling your 3bet on the flop instead of jamming. Won't it be a very disgusting spot for him on a lot of turns if he just calls your 3bet? I mean a lot of cards will be good for him but a majority of the deck will still miss him and you will probably be jamming the turn so he will be in a tough spot.

By peeling a turn, he is just giving himself another opportunity to make a +EV decision (be it foldiing, betting or calling). Yes it will be a tougher decision than the flop, but it can become very problematic to try and always arrange our ranges in such a way that we avoid future tough decisions. Also there are actually quite a few turns where he has a somewhat straightforward decision. About half the deck gives him a diamond, 7, T, J or Q.



edwardpastoll 11 years, 11 months ago

hi there ,interesting video thanks for that ... i wanted to ask you about the qjs hand. You state you have a lot of hands there you could float with such as a gutshot and bckdoor flush draw or some such thing ... wouldn't it be better to include these type of hands in ur flop raising range instead of a hand such as qjs which has a greater amount of equity and implied odds buts very little against his c-bet/3-betting range on the flop? You said that he doesnt really get out of line so  do you figure that the time you get 3bet where u have poor equity against his range will be far outweighed by the time he flats and u can bluff him/ improve on later streets? Also arent you putting your range too face up here on the flop by flatting the 3bet as you now cant credibly rep a made hand as i presume u jam all of these on the flop ? You cant really have a flush draw here either as i imagine the flush draws u raise the flop then would just jam as they would be combo draws.So to me it seems an observant opponent could put u squarely on just about your exact hand and therefore play perfectly against it.


Parker Muir 11 years, 10 months ago

You said that he doesnt really get out of line so  do you figure that the time you get 3bet where u have poor equity against his range will be far outweighed by the time he flats and u can bluff him/ improve on later streets? 

I don't think it outweighs it at all. There are wayyy more combos of bare Ax, and other one pair hands than there are of 2pair+.

Also arent you putting your range too face up here on the flop by flatting the 3bet as you now cant credibly rep a made hand as i presume u jam all of these on the flop ?

I could definitely be perceived by him to flat a nutted hand on this flop as well to keep bluffs in. I don't see why not.

So to me it seems an observant opponent could put u squarely on just about your exact hand and therefore play perfectly against it.

I think that you have done very good analysis to narrow down the types of hands I will have here. Just remember though it's a lot easier to feel this way when you can see my cards, rather than being in my opponents shoes in the moment.

bang_bang 11 years, 9 months ago

Hi!

I have a question about KK hand. Are you sure that is profitable to stackoff so deep on this board with KK? I put some hands in pokerstove and it looks quite bad for our hand:

Board: 8d 2d 9s

Hand 0:    76.029%    76.03%    00.00%     12043     0.00  { 99-88, 22, AdQd, AdJd, AdTd, QdTd, JdTd, 98s }

Hand 1:    23.971%    23.97%    00.00%     3797     0.00  { KcKh }

I think this is quite a reasonable range for him to stackoff. And he may even just call with his draws more because you are a bit deep. I donk think he will ever play TT-QQ like that.
Or would you give him different range?

Parker Muir 11 years, 9 months ago

I think you are giving him far too tight of a range, basically the worst case possible. You need to include more 9x of diamond hands, dominated flush draws like KQdd and QJdd, more 9x type hands like A9s, possible TT. You also need to remember that after he raises to $115 he can still fold to our re-raise and thus in those cases we are winning $115 with 100% equity.

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