nice vid owen:) keep it going, would like to see more turbo vids, as they are my favourite format (y) btw nice run, hope that I can steal little bit for myself :D

Me too! Great analysis of some tricky spots here....I liked the demonstration of ICMIZER and HM resources. Is the difference that HM Resources automatically plugs in the ranges for you and ICMIZER allows you to play with the ranges to adjust for player tendencies? So if you know a player is LAG you can widen the range? HM Resources automatically adjusts for stack sizes assuming normal player tendencies right?

Do you think that passing up some marginally +EV (.5 - 1 BB) is often advisable given ICM or does HM resources automatically adjust for that in the equation?

Really liking this video and how you break down spots with the HMR/ICMizer. Looking forward to part 2

Hi Owen, thanks for a nice video
First of all I would like to say that in Holdem Resources youcan edit ranges as well as in ICMIZER but it does not matter :D
I have a hand which I want to discuss with you.
16:40 55 I think that it could be a nice spot to 4bet shove if the opener has wide opening range which I think he has, given a stats. Of course it depends on how wide the btn is going to 3bet shove too. When I calculated this hand in holdem resources, 55 were around half blind +EV which I think is nice profit in turbo tournament.

15:53 ATo I agree with the r/c, r/f line of thinking with this hand but would be jamming AJ. However, I'm curious to know if you are shoving any hands from that stack depth. IMO any suited broadways are great candidate for it as well as mid pp's say 55-88. I just hate to be r/f hands that show a nice +ev edge if shoved.

I habe to report one mistake. At 08:17 you are saying we would make 0.02 of a BB with The A4s openshove this is not actually true AS hrc displays The EV based on The total chips in play or ICM based money. So this push EV is 0.02% oft all chips in The table. Also this is based on perfect calling ranges. Generally i would not See anyone calling wider than perfect in an 8R tournament so you should See it also a bit More EV+ . it doesnt change our actions but i just wanted to be correct

You didnt get me. It gives you the result as a percentage of total chips in play, because this is actually the same as the percentage of total money in play if winner takes it all.

So as we are learning something new i can add information too to your post. Im a lowstakesgrinder, but I think in game theory im pretty good.

So I would not overvalue FGS, because as far as i understood it its basically calculates how wide your ranges are in the next spots and calculates the average Ev of all 100% of combinations in the next spots. This is in my opinion just really important if you are a shortstack and the blinds are coming soon.

In real world your estimated edge on the field should be way more important. For example if you play 10-15BB/100 you have to calculate that a slight eV+ calling spot might not be maxEV on the long term as you have the advantage of playing more hands where you can get eV. If your edge is not that big and you are shotting this is not accurate, but I just think this is good to have in mind. Especially in some cases if you have to broke against another big stack in a really fishy tournament. Also this makes more sense in reg speed tourneys, since you are more often in postflop situation and can make a lot of chips there. It always different, but its a limit of HRC.

Anyway i see not a point to dont push as wide as nash suggest (at least for first in pushes/ 3b pushes need the ranges adjustet). At under normal circumstances this should be more eV than nash says.

I like all your videos and i stydy and learn from them because i have many leaks.Its my first time i comment and i am also happy y won 109 to pokerstars yesterday.I wish always run so good and help us to become better.Thanks again for your videos...

Where it would be possible to get your PokerTracker HUD ? can you share it ?

Good analysis. Like the video.

Hi Owen!

Thanks again, I really enjoy your video's!
I have a question considering min-opening with a short stack. I noticed you talk a lot about min-opening hands with small stacksizes.

In this particular case, since it is 2x turbo and everyone is pretty short, not many people will play back and the main thing to consider is (indeed) re-shoving.

But I find that in (mainly) regular turbo's there are often 20+BB stacks (and off course sometimes also shorter stacks then that) that will play back at my min-opening, defending button or BB for example. I therefore often find it hard to min-open of-suit broadways or even hands like AJs/AQs/AKs or some pocket pairs because you can easily be out-flopped.

When it is non-turbo I have less problems with this, but since losing a pot being short can often kill me in a turbo, I'd rather open-shove some hands. I often become card dead afterwards and I don't want to bleed below (let's say) 7BB as a consequence of min-opening a hand that could have gotten a fold if I open-shoved it. Instead I rather prefer to open shove and pick up the blinds and antes then lose the (s)pot.

For instance, depending on my table off course, I often open-shove J10s with 15BB from early position. Or let's say AJo with 17BB from early position. I do have a balanced shoving range I think and they are always +EV. But not always optimal maybe when I see your approach.

What is your opinion on this? Should I just be more confident in my post-flop game? Do you adapt your min-opening/shoving balance to stack sizes and playback abilities of other players at your table?
I noticed I probably also do this to soon in regular tournaments. Should there be a (big) difference in my min-opening/shoving balnce in regular versus turbo games (or maybe 2x,3x turbo)?

Thanks in advance for your time.

Ciao

Frankel

Hi Frankel
I really base this on what I think is going to be the most profitable way to play a hand. I think you are falling into a common trap of MTT players which is basing your actions on trying to take the easiest decision instead of the best one. Sure shoving AJ will probably be ok with 17BB from EP BUT you are allowing people to play pretty perfectly against you then. The area which the general poker population have improved the most on in the last few years is their shove/fold ranges so a lot of your opponents will know at least roughly what they need to call and what they need to fold against you in this spot.

The only reasons I ever start just taking the easy shove line with a 15+ BB stack from EP is either when we are near a bubble and I know people are going to be putting pressure on me so I want to take that option away from them or if I know the BB calls really wide to a min open and also plays very very well and will understand where they are postflop against my opening range.

You talked about not liking it when the blinds defend v your AK/AQ/AJ opens and this probably means you need to work a lot more on your postflop game and understanding where you are with flop textures. I'd imagine one of the most common things that happens to you is that you open AJ, get flatted by the BB, flop comes T hi or something and you get check raised when you C Bet. I'd imagine you really need to work on when to check back flops and try to get to showdown. Its really about creating a strategy which denies your opponent the opportunity to use their best weapons, and for the people who call a lot in the BB that is attacking people who c bet too much so checking takes that away from them.

Almost more importantly you are missing out absolutely tonnes of value from people reshoving on you light if you are choosing to just open shove your big aces and medium pairs with 15bb+ stacks. Players know that people are opening light from these stacks so you will often see them reshoving 22 or A5s against the min opens so if we are shoving say AJ or 88 with 15BBs from the cutoff then we are allowing them to fold these types of hands and missing out getting into a 30bb pot where we can have them crushed preflop.

My advice to you would be to go away and think about your postflop play a lot more. Go and watch some cash game videos maybe to learn more about postflop thinking and once you are more confident with it then you will be much more comfortable having min opening as part of your short stack game.

Thanks for your complete answer! Will watch some more cash-game vids as well.

Nice vid Owen. I like this format. The thing that worried me is how many good players has in final 3 or 4 tables. I saw just one fishy. Is this a tendency for this type tournaments? I mean in normal MTTs is ok to see only good players on the final but in turbos... What you say about this?

Hi Owen, thanks for your video. I am an amateur in China and sorry that I don't quite understand "I will be just shoving my whole range here". You said it during the 2nd hand (AKo, CO) in this video. Does it mean that you will shove any two cards (even 27o), or that you will shove a specific range (like AX & 22+)? Many thanks!