Open Face Pineapple at the WSOP
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Haha at those pics. You look like you are playing in some sketchy locations.
Street pavement (downtown freemont?), glass table w neon lights (strip club? ).
Let me know if you need protection.
The glass table was from a hookah bar, the lighting was not ideal but you can't knock it ;)
Cool vid, Jen.
Around 19:00 where you explain the math behind the probability of getting dealt a pair, we are talking about our first 3-card draw after having put 5 cards already, right? If so, I think we should use 47, 46, 45 instead of 52, 51, 50 because we already know those 5 cards. Also, when we already have a pair at the bottom, the odds of getting that pair (i.e. one pair -> quads) should be significantly lower, so we should multiply it by a number that's smaller than 13. You kind of mentioned this in vid, so maybe I'm just nitpicking :(
As for the 16 vs 28 unseen cards, this seems a Bayesian problem. Thing is, we would need to be VERY confident that he would have discarded our card from the beginning; otherwise, we would end up with a wrong number. I still think 11% is a meaningful number though, because we can regard it as the lower boundary.
Please make more vids, preferably with some more example of setting the first 5 cards!
- V
Hey! Thanks for your comment and good to meet you at the RIO lounge.
Indeed, the math I did for discards shows the upper and lower boundaries- it's rare we'll be that confident. For instance, when our opponents draw 3 useful or 3 useless cards, that would reduce our confidence in discards.
Good catch re 19:00. My math was again, theoretical. I calculated the starting probability of getting a pair in three cards off the deck. If I did the math after the first turn, everything would change slightly based on the number of live ranks. So I show the approximate odds of getting a pair with an average number of pair clusters/live ranks. Ingame (when we must/want to act quickly), this is useful information.
Don't quite agree with 1010 99 8 hand. You argue the objective is to go for trips trips trips.
I am normally trying to go for two pair in the middle, hopefully higher two pair or better at the back and QQ / KK/ AA up top.
With 99 in the middle you can easily place an A up top if you get that. with just an 8 in the middle you have to place an A in the middle and hope for a K or a Q on future streets to give you a shot at FL.
My objective is always figuring how to make it to FL in the easiest possible manner.
Hey Gawd! Thanks for your comment, which is interesting. I don't fully agree with the part "you have to place an A in the middle" There are a lot of spots we can consider putting an ace up top even without a pair in the middle yet. A good example is if we already have a big two pair in the back and kings and queens are starting to die off. In this case, we have so much flexibility to build any two pair (except for jacks obv) or even start building flush/str8 draws since we make our boat so often.
The bigger the pair in the back, the more compelled I am to place an ace up top. Some players are even starting to stick the ace-up top as a default when they set their first five. I'll try to find a good example or two of this to discuss in my next video/s.
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