I think he's forced to defend almost every Qx just because of the equity vs Stefan's 2p hands, any flush draw and any 45. I believe he gets to fold every single 7x and medium PP.
EDIT: I actually checked this and seems like I was somewhat accurate with my analysis.
Nuno Alvarez looks good just fold out the Q6-Q4 that block some of the bluffing range but also can't improve to a better 2 pair if Stefan has a hand like Q7.
Linus seems to go 31% or 71% where Stefan is 29% or 77%. I think I like Stefan's sizing choice a bit more. Gets to CB wider and value bet just a tad thinner and then turn / river strategy given how often we see him using 236% OB, the smaller flop stab makes a lot of sense. Both of these players are just a nightmare to play against though.
Amazing how many hands they play vs each other and there are no all ins. Might of been one in the beginning, but I think in HU matches people just expect a lot more aggression and a lot of all ins. They seem to master the redline without being all in. Quite impressive.
Lots more interesting hands in this video, so will make for a good review!
26.00 Q72hh
What are the characteristics of the board that determine whether you should check-raise the turn to a 10x sizing, or something smaller (around 4-5x)?
26:00 - Very good question. In my experience this is extremely tied to a couple of factors.
IP bet sizing. If IP delay cbets for 67% or bigger you don't want to x/r larger than 4.5x/6x.
How ''volatile'' the equity of your good hands is. This is a new concept that I discovered lately. When your good hands are likely to retain most of their equity on most runouts, you usually wanna put a lot of money in. However, if the board is much less static and the equity of your good hands is going to vary a lot depending on the river card, you usually don't want to be x/r larger than 6x.
Thanks, great answer!
Had not considered the volatility of the board before, that's very interesting. I guess it's similar to other scenarios where we are OOP and tend to size down on volatile boards before the river. I.e. the more likely our value hands are to be devalued by river cards, the more we size down when OOP given that we can't check back bad rivers with value hands that are devalued by draw completing rivers.
Note that this really big x/r sizing never gets used on paired/flush turns either because IP is much less capped on those spots.
Yeh I had assumed that your opponent has to be hard-capped to make massive check raises, i.e. the flopped nuts is still the nuts on the turn.
A72r74
You say here that the BB gets the value bet very thinly here (K8+) after the flop and turn check through. I understand the board being paired means the SB has fewer low pairs, but I would have thought that the turn pairing would make the SB check back very often twice with pocket pairs? I would understand if the board was A7247 instead, but given the pair is on the turn I would not expect this.
I'm not sure I understand your logic behind checking back very often twice with pocket pairs when the turn pairs. I guess that you're thinking about the probe range from OOP being stronger? In any case PP's have a lot of incentive on protection betting in these spots since they go up on value and they become more vulnerable because they can get counterfeited on some rivers.
Nuno Alvarez impressive KX value bets! I watched a bluff the spot youtube video last night and he called Q high in a line that didn't make sense to him. So these K-high value bets can be quite good!
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26min what is Linus supposed to defend on this turn after a delay cb for 50% pot and Stefan XR 200% pot?

Good question RunItTw1ce
I think he's forced to defend almost every Qx just because of the equity vs Stefan's 2p hands, any flush draw and any 45. I believe he gets to fold every single 7x and medium PP.
EDIT: I actually checked this and seems like I was somewhat accurate with my analysis.
Nuno Alvarez looks good just fold out the Q6-Q4 that block some of the bluffing range but also can't improve to a better 2 pair if Stefan has a hand like Q7.
Correct! Note as well that Q6 has awful reverse implied odds vs the main bluffing hand for OOP which is 54o.
Linus seems to go 31% or 71% where Stefan is 29% or 77%. I think I like Stefan's sizing choice a bit more. Gets to CB wider and value bet just a tad thinner and then turn / river strategy given how often we see him using 236% OB, the smaller flop stab makes a lot of sense. Both of these players are just a nightmare to play against though.
Amazing how many hands they play vs each other and there are no all ins. Might of been one in the beginning, but I think in HU matches people just expect a lot more aggression and a lot of all ins. They seem to master the redline without being all in. Quite impressive.
31%, 71% or 29%, 77% is basically the same betting split structure for a human IMO.
Gotta agree with this though :P
There are quite a few All Ins in HU in general but there's certainly not as much aggression as some people tends to expect.
Lots more interesting hands in this video, so will make for a good review!
26.00 Q72hh
What are the characteristics of the board that determine whether you should check-raise the turn to a 10x sizing, or something smaller (around 4-5x)?
Indeed! Stay tuned for that one matlittle :)
26:00 - Very good question. In my experience this is extremely tied to a couple of factors.
IP bet sizing. If IP delay cbets for 67% or bigger you don't want to x/r larger than 4.5x/6x.
How ''volatile'' the equity of your good hands is. This is a new concept that I discovered lately. When your good hands are likely to retain most of their equity on most runouts, you usually wanna put a lot of money in. However, if the board is much less static and the equity of your good hands is going to vary a lot depending on the river card, you usually don't want to be x/r larger than 6x.
Qh7s2h
Qh7s4h
Note that this really big x/r sizing never gets used on paired/flush turns either because IP is much less capped on those spots.
Thanks, great answer!
Had not considered the volatility of the board before, that's very interesting. I guess it's similar to other scenarios where we are OOP and tend to size down on volatile boards before the river. I.e. the more likely our value hands are to be devalued by river cards, the more we size down when OOP given that we can't check back bad rivers with value hands that are devalued by draw completing rivers.
Yeh I had assumed that your opponent has to be hard-capped to make massive check raises, i.e. the flopped nuts is still the nuts on the turn.
Exactly as the same as those scenarios. Spot on :)
A72r74
You say here that the BB gets the value bet very thinly here (K8+) after the flop and turn check through. I understand the board being paired means the SB has fewer low pairs, but I would have thought that the turn pairing would make the SB check back very often twice with pocket pairs? I would understand if the board was A7247 instead, but given the pair is on the turn I would not expect this.
I'm not sure I understand your logic behind checking back very often twice with pocket pairs when the turn pairs. I guess that you're thinking about the probe range from OOP being stronger? In any case PP's have a lot of incentive on protection betting in these spots since they go up on value and they become more vulnerable because they can get counterfeited on some rivers.
DCB
I actually even fell a bit short on how thin OOP can valuebet in this line hehe. Looks like any Kx that plays gets to valuebet
Nuno Alvarez impressive KX value bets! I watched a bluff the spot youtube video last night and he called Q high in a line that didn't make sense to him. So these K-high value bets can be quite good!
That's pretty wild, I am just a 6max nit and not used to such wide ranges!
Good video, looking forward to solutions
Thank you postwar18! Coming next :)
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