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$200/$400 HUNL: Stefan v Linus (Part 2)

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Nuno Alvarez

POSTED Jul 17, 2022

Nuno Alvarez goes through the next segment of the high-stakes footage that has been recorded between LinusLLove and Stefan. He breaks down the action from a railbirding perspective to see what we can learn from the best.

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RunItTw1ce 2 years, 8 months ago

26min what is Linus supposed to defend on this turn after a delay cb for 50% pot and Stefan XR 200% pot?

Nuno Alvarez 2 years, 8 months ago

Good question RunItTw1ce

I think he's forced to defend almost every Qx just because of the equity vs Stefan's 2p hands, any flush draw and any 45. I believe he gets to fold every single 7x and medium PP.

EDIT: I actually checked this and seems like I was somewhat accurate with my analysis.

RunItTw1ce 2 years, 8 months ago

Linus seems to go 31% or 71% where Stefan is 29% or 77%. I think I like Stefan's sizing choice a bit more. Gets to CB wider and value bet just a tad thinner and then turn / river strategy given how often we see him using 236% OB, the smaller flop stab makes a lot of sense. Both of these players are just a nightmare to play against though.

Amazing how many hands they play vs each other and there are no all ins. Might of been one in the beginning, but I think in HU matches people just expect a lot more aggression and a lot of all ins. They seem to master the redline without being all in. Quite impressive.

Nuno Alvarez 2 years, 8 months ago

31%, 71% or 29%, 77% is basically the same betting split structure for a human IMO.

Both of these players are just a nightmare to play against though.

Gotta agree with this though :P

There are quite a few All Ins in HU in general but there's certainly not as much aggression as some people tends to expect.

matlittle 2 years, 8 months ago

Lots more interesting hands in this video, so will make for a good review!

26.00 Q72hh
What are the characteristics of the board that determine whether you should check-raise the turn to a 10x sizing, or something smaller (around 4-5x)?

Nuno Alvarez 2 years, 8 months ago

Indeed! Stay tuned for that one matlittle :)

26:00 - Very good question. In my experience this is extremely tied to a couple of factors.

  1. IP bet sizing. If IP delay cbets for 67% or bigger you don't want to x/r larger than 4.5x/6x.

  2. How ''volatile'' the equity of your good hands is. This is a new concept that I discovered lately. When your good hands are likely to retain most of their equity on most runouts, you usually wanna put a lot of money in. However, if the board is much less static and the equity of your good hands is going to vary a lot depending on the river card, you usually don't want to be x/r larger than 6x.

Qh7s2h

Qh7s4h

Note that this really big x/r sizing never gets used on paired/flush turns either because IP is much less capped on those spots.

matlittle 2 years, 8 months ago

Thanks, great answer!
Had not considered the volatility of the board before, that's very interesting. I guess it's similar to other scenarios where we are OOP and tend to size down on volatile boards before the river. I.e. the more likely our value hands are to be devalued by river cards, the more we size down when OOP given that we can't check back bad rivers with value hands that are devalued by draw completing rivers.

Note that this really big x/r sizing never gets used on paired/flush turns either because IP is much less capped on those spots.

Yeh I had assumed that your opponent has to be hard-capped to make massive check raises, i.e. the flopped nuts is still the nuts on the turn.

matlittle 2 years, 8 months ago

A72r74
You say here that the BB gets the value bet very thinly here (K8+) after the flop and turn check through. I understand the board being paired means the SB has fewer low pairs, but I would have thought that the turn pairing would make the SB check back very often twice with pocket pairs? I would understand if the board was A7247 instead, but given the pair is on the turn I would not expect this.

Nuno Alvarez 2 years, 8 months ago

I'm not sure I understand your logic behind checking back very often twice with pocket pairs when the turn pairs. I guess that you're thinking about the probe range from OOP being stronger? In any case PP's have a lot of incentive on protection betting in these spots since they go up on value and they become more vulnerable because they can get counterfeited on some rivers.

DCB

I actually even fell a bit short on how thin OOP can valuebet in this line hehe. Looks like any Kx that plays gets to valuebet

matlittle 2 years, 8 months ago

I actually even fell a bit short on how thin OOP can valuebet in this line hehe. Looks like any Kx that plays gets to valuebet

That's pretty wild, I am just a 6max nit and not used to such wide ranges!

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