you mentioned pretty heavily the concept around checking back to avoid check shove, but couldn't we theoretically also play a block (or smaller? 15-25%?) to avoid that situation since it would be harder for opponent to check shove 2x pot over a block vs a pot shove over a 2/3 sizing? Might be way off but just an idea I was thinking about. Does seem harder to balance, and I guess the higher Ax wants to go for two larger streets, but on this mostly dry board going small and then large on the river doesn't seem so bad either.
I understand the idea but your Turn betting range just wants to size geometrically to go allin OTR and even if you force the solver to use a block sizing IP, OOP can just respond by shoving anyway so it doesn't really help you that much.
That said, population will struggle showing aggression vs the blockbet sizing so I can see how this will work quite nicely exploitatively.
I have heard a lot of coaches advicing to use geometric sizings in certain spots. I never quite understood why we do it. What is the reason behind it? And what are the spots where we should do it?
The idea behind using geometric sizings is to maximize the EV f your range in a nuts/air situation.
As far as I know, in theory, this can only be applied when your value range has 100% equity vs the calling range and your bluffing range has 0% equity vs the calling range as well. In practice, this will essentially never happen since your betting range from the Flop will always contain ''value hands'' that will almost never convert to 100% equity hands and ''bluff hands'' which almost never will have 0% equity vs your opponent's calling range. That said, in most scenarios in which your range is quite polar (ie: 3BP on HUNL) using a geometric sizing pattern will increase your overall EV.
You can find more info about it in this thread and in this Qing Yang video he made some time ago.
Hi, and thanks for this new vid!
A few questions on the sizings you used on the Jd6s2s flop, why are u using 50% cbet more than 1/3 pot, and in your bet check bet game, you explain using 50% and 100% otr, can you explain a little bit more those choices?
Both of these are solver approved choices. I tested multiple Flop sizings on Jxx boards and found out that 50% is the one that retains the most EV. Same regarding the 50% / 100% split OTR on the bet check bet opportunity, it just shows slightly higher EV at equilibrium than just playing 67%.
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Starting to face some of the usual suspects haha
Nice one Nuno! Hope there's more footage
Haha thanks a lot zache!
Sadly the action died right after I finished recording but I will definitely try to bring more of these in the future :)
you mentioned pretty heavily the concept around checking back to avoid check shove, but couldn't we theoretically also play a block (or smaller? 15-25%?) to avoid that situation since it would be harder for opponent to check shove 2x pot over a block vs a pot shove over a 2/3 sizing? Might be way off but just an idea I was thinking about. Does seem harder to balance, and I guess the higher Ax wants to go for two larger streets, but on this mostly dry board going small and then large on the river doesn't seem so bad either.
Timestamp please?
around 14:30 when ur looking at the hand u had J9ss
I understand the idea but your Turn betting range just wants to size geometrically to go allin OTR and even if you force the solver to use a block sizing IP, OOP can just respond by shoving anyway so it doesn't really help you that much.
That said, population will struggle showing aggression vs the blockbet sizing so I can see how this will work quite nicely exploitatively.
I have heard a lot of coaches advicing to use geometric sizings in certain spots. I never quite understood why we do it. What is the reason behind it? And what are the spots where we should do it?
Hey tbag, good question!
The idea behind using geometric sizings is to maximize the EV f your range in a nuts/air situation.
As far as I know, in theory, this can only be applied when your value range has 100% equity vs the calling range and your bluffing range has 0% equity vs the calling range as well. In practice, this will essentially never happen since your betting range from the Flop will always contain ''value hands'' that will almost never convert to 100% equity hands and ''bluff hands'' which almost never will have 0% equity vs your opponent's calling range. That said, in most scenarios in which your range is quite polar (ie: 3BP on HUNL) using a geometric sizing pattern will increase your overall EV.
You can find more info about it in this thread and in this Qing Yang video he made some time ago.
Hi, and thanks for this new vid!
A few questions on the sizings you used on the Jd6s2s flop, why are u using 50% cbet more than 1/3 pot, and in your bet check bet game, you explain using 50% and 100% otr, can you explain a little bit more those choices?
Thanks feat.random. Glad you liked it!
Both of these are solver approved choices. I tested multiple Flop sizings on Jxx boards and found out that 50% is the one that retains the most EV. Same regarding the 50% / 100% split OTR on the bet check bet opportunity, it just shows slightly higher EV at equilibrium than just playing 67%.
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