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$50/$100 HUNL: All the Regs

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Nuno Alvarez

POSTED Jan 02, 2021

Nuno Alvarez noticed the high stakes Zoom pool running and fired up the recording to break down the footage in postmortem fashion with many of the best regs battling it out.

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RunItTw1ce 4 years, 3 months ago

When you describe Queen497 as a recreational is that based on skill set or just because he is not a reg? I would assume most players at 10kNL are competent especially if they are venturing into the HU format. Would you consider yurasov1990 a recreational as well because he is generally a six max player and doesn't know the correct bet sizes for HU?

27:50 on 885ss-5x after flop gets XR you said you expect a lot of checking from oop. Isn't the check raise representing a lot of 8x? Why does 8x wanna check turn?

31:00 mention IP wants to use over bet size on Qs4x5xJs2s Pot is 31bb and IP jams for 84bb. You said jamming is an exploit but should be using a standard over bet size. Would a standard OB be 45bb? If so that is more than half his stack, so doesn't jamming make sense?

Enjoyed the format and look forward to a 2nd part. Also a review of any of Dougs vs Dnegs hands would be interesting as well. Some times people in the comments will time stamp the showdown hands for the bigger pots, that might help if you make a video on it. While we didn't see a ton of showdowns in this format, there was enough to give entertainment and education.

Nuno Alvarez 4 years, 3 months ago

Thank you RunItTw1ce. Glad you enjoyed it!

When you describe Queen497 as a recreational is that based on skill
set or just because he is not a reg? I would assume most players at
10kNL are competent especially if they are venturing into the HU
format. Would you consider yurasov1990 a recreational as well because
he is generally a six max player and doesn't know the correct bet
sizes for HU?

I described Queen497 as a recreational because the game was running around him and I never saw him before. I think that assuming that most players at 10KNL are competent is just wrong. There are some recreational players that have the money to play high stakes and they're just looking to have fun and compete against the best in the world but that doesn't make them competent players.

I wouldn't consider yurasov1990 a recreational at all. He's a long time high stakes 6 max player so I wouldn't expect him to have the edge over most high stakes HU specialists but that doesn't mean he's a weak player by any means.

27:50 on 885ss-5x after flop gets XR you said you expect a lot of
checking from oop. Isn't the check raise representing a lot of 8x? Why
does 8x wanna check turn?

My initial idea here was that the fact that the board is double paired makes the OOP value range quite narrow so I'd expect a decent bit of checking because of that. However, in this spot if OOP has a blockbet sizing as a part of it's strategy, the betting frequency is still rather high.

31:00 mention IP wants to use over bet size on Qs4x5xJs2s Pot is 31bb
and IP jams for 84bb. You said jamming is an exploit but should be
using a standard over bet size. Would a standard OB be 45bb? If so
that is more than half his stack, so doesn't jamming make sense?

A standard overbet sizing here should be around 40bb - 45bb and even if it's a little bit over half the effective stack it will still perform better at equilibrium than shoving given that this sizing will allow the IP player to condense his value range and include ''thin'' value bets such as QJ or 44 because those hands will be protected by the flush combos.

As you can see here, the solver just doesn't like to use the shove at all at equilibrium. That said, it can still be a very strong exploitative play as I mentioned on the video.

Enjoyed the format and look forward to a 2nd part. Also a review of
any of Dougs vs Dnegs hands would be interesting as well. Some times
people in the comments will time stamp the showdown hands for the
bigger pots, that might help if you make a video on it. While we
didn't see a ton of showdowns in this format, there was enough to give
entertainment and education.

Thank you for the kind words and the suggestion! I will definitely consider reviewing some hands from their match in the future :)

RunItTw1ce 4 years, 3 months ago

Looking at the solve, looks like 76o 86o K3o and some 73s are the main bluff combos. With those combos I guess hero doesn't want to shove and get snapped by a flush or set. Also when hero has a set not sure if oop XR all in with all flushes or just high flushes, so shoving would over value some sets based on callers range. Makes more sense now. Thank you for snap shot.

Nuno Alvarez 4 years, 3 months ago

Looking at the solve, looks like 76o 86o K3o and some 73s are the main
bluff combos. With those combos I guess hero doesn't want to shove and
get snapped by a flush or set.

I think this isn't the correct line of thinking here. In pretty much every single spot in HUNL, our value range is what defines our sizing choices and not our bluffing range.

Also when hero has a set not sure if oop XR all in with all flushes or
just high flushes, so shoving would over value some sets based on
callers range. Makes more sense now. Thank you for snap shot.

This is correct to a certain degree. It's not about hero not being sure about OOP strategy (the solver knows how both positions play the game at all times) it's more about IP condensing it's value range to the betsize that generates the most EV vs the OOP range. As you said, shoving here with sets or strong 2P will underperform since that will allow the OOP player to reach the MDF by almost exclusively calling their flush combos.

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