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$5,000NL: Me vs FourSixFour Finale

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Nuno Alvarez

POSTED Sep 22, 2024

Nuno Alvarez brings the third and final installment of his battle against FourSixFour at high stakes and discusses the hands with the benefit of hindsight.

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777TripSevens777 6 months ago

Nuno,
The hand at ~7:30 where you hold Tc6d on 6s3s8s turn Jd river 9h and face a bet of 3/4 pot, do you ever raise straights here vs this sizing? If so, does a hand like Tc6d ever want to bluff raise here or do you want to have a spade when bluffing? Curious what hands you would choose as bluffs here and what your value threshold for raising is in this spot.
Thanks Nuno.

Nuno Alvarez 6 months ago

Hey!

I definitely raise straights here vs this sizing. Given that this is a check down spot, a straight is worth a lot of money. You could even check/raise a few 2p combos here.

The main heuristic to choose bluffs in these kind of scenarios is to try to have a pair with the river card, however, in this spot we will be valuebetting 9x ourselves so we would pull our bluffs from 3x, 8x, 6x hands instead, ideally with a spade and a straight blocker sometimes. So yeah, T6o is a fine candidate to bluff raise the river occasionally.

I_Fold_Jacks 6 months ago

Just starting to watch more HU videos as I climb though the stakes and find myself playing more heads up. Your content is great. Look forward to watching your old videos as well as new ones you produce!

matlittle 6 months ago

Interesting that the KX doesn't like to bet the river here for OOP, even for the block sizing. Is that because the IP player played turn super-polar, so maintains a bunch of KX, AX in it's range, so OOP's KX struggles to get value here? Is there also a factor of not having other bluff catchers on this board for OOP's checking range given that the board is paired, so we don't have many other paired hands for check-calling? Or is it strictly a case of not finding enough value by betting?

matlittle 6 months ago

Also, given that we saw your opponent block the river, would that suggest to you that your opponent was likely making a mistake in range construction here? The solver uses the 25% sizing least frequently out of the sizings you gave it, plus it is using it almost entirely for a small fraction of KX, which we can see from the sim that they primarily prefer to check. This to me would suggest its likely your opponent would lack check-calls when they check here.

Nuno Alvarez 6 months ago

Good question.

I've been toying around with the sim and looks like there are a lot of things going on here.

Looks like OOP prefers to just check Kx rather than build a small betting range and add some Ax to protect it (or else IP just gets to raise every single Kx as a freeroll) because Ax doesn't wanna have to size down. IP still has the nut advantage here and given the dynamic of the board and the kicker of the Ax hands not playing, OOP has to play checks with all the Kx and just bet Ax instead.

Nuno Alvarez 6 months ago

Also, given that we saw your opponent block the river, would that suggest to you that your opponent was likely making a mistake in range construction here? The solver uses the 25% sizing least frequently out of the sizings you gave it, plus it is using it almost entirely for a small fraction of KX, which we can see from the sim that they primarily prefer to check.

Yes, he probably was but I can't blame him since I would have made the same mistake as well.

This to me would suggest its likely your opponent would lack check-calls when they check here.

This is not necessarily true since he can just be playing a lot of check/calls with his Q high and J high region instead and feel like that's the way the spot is supposed to be played.

matlittle 6 months ago

In this 3BP you changed the board slightly to show that on a rainbow board ATo would call pure, whereas on the 2-tone board it only called with the BDFD. Is that because on the rainbow board you have fewer strong draws to call (because theres no flush draws) and because your draw has a bit more equity because of the absence of flush draws?

Nuno Alvarez 6 months ago

Correct. The idea is that on the FD board you have more hands to continue with to defend properly given that you have a lot of FD's since most of your range is composed by suited hands. However, on the rainbow version we lack those FD's so we have to defend a bigger portion of the straight draws and weak pairs range.

matlittle 6 months ago

Im a bit confused by this spot. You cbet pot on turn then he donked 10% on river. Typically I would see this in my games from players who are simply afraid of facing another big river bet so just donk out small hoping to prevent the opponent from betting big again.
What do you think that your opponent was hoping to achieve here? Having seen this showdown, do you think there would be a way you could exploit your opponent in future in a similar situation?

Nuno Alvarez 6 months ago

It's hard to know what he's exactly trying to achieve here with this bet. It feels like he expects me to over/under react in some way against it (which is definitely going to happen) so he gains some extra EV by investing a very small amount of money into the pot.

Having seen this showdown, do you think there would be a way you could exploit your opponent in future in a similar situation?

Not really. Darrell is a really strong player and I'm sure that he will do this in a somewhat balanced way or even if he doesn't, he will quickly re-adjust if I try to exploit him in some way.

RunItTw1ce 6 months ago

Nuno Alvarez I haven't watched your current video yet, but I have a video request of a replay I came across that I found mind blowing. I'm only 15 minutes into this video of Berri vs Boifin, but some of these hands are mind-blowing! Would love to hear your analysis on them!

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3BP - Flop XX - turn XX. River B150 and boifin calls. These guys are straight pyscho.

Nuno Alvarez 6 months ago

Thank you for sharing! Will do a review on this if you guys are interested. Please leave a like here or comment to lmk :)

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