Reviewing My Play From 3 Years Ago
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7:26 Table 2: OOP is supposed to find some mixed frequency double barrels on turn with strong text pairs? Some weak pair double barrels continue on river? In practice OOP can’t find enough bluffs on river?
I checked this one and there is indeed a tiny bit of QJ and QT OTT that I doubt people will find.
OTR looks like his sizing isn't ideal but you can see how hard it is to bluff on this card since pretty much every single missed FD has to be found.
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Haaa thanks!
Davy and you are both using same avatar as three years ago. so his Davy is from Pirates of the Caribbean, What is your avatar come from?
Ha funny enough this is the first time they've asked me.
It's Gitaxian Probe. One of the strongest Magic The Gathering cards ever printed and my personal favorite.
Haha Reg's Avatar is always on my top3 interest.
I heard that uri peleg also played Magic the gathering before playing poker.
This is my favorite card in yu-gi-oh. which calls Superfusion
Haha. Indeed, Uri won the mtg World Championship before he moved into poker.
I used to play yu-gi-oh when I was a child before I discovered mtg lol. I still remember quite a few cards from that time :)
It was interesting to watch the video and see you point out the things you have learned over the past 3 years! You were also pretty good at pointing out your previous mistakes before they happened which I guess shows you that you knew which areas of your game were in need of improvement and have now fixed them!
Thanks mat!
At 8.30 with 87 on T94ss3sT
You probe 2/3 on the turn and then 3 year ago you opted to overbet the river. Current you disapproved of the play, presumably wanting to have a spade blocker to overbet bluff the river? Are spade blockers still better for the large sizing despite blocking some of the folding range for BTN (i.e. unpaired hands with a spade)? I know As is a bad blocker to have to bluff the river, presumably Ks is bad too for a similar reason?
Good question.
Spade blockers tend to still be better for the large sizing choices but not necessarily to block their flushes (since they don't have that many on this line) but more to block their strongest bluffcatchers. When we overbet, a decent portion of our value range are flushes therefore we want to mirror that with bluffs that contain a spade in order to make the bluffcatchers that contain a spade for IP slightly worse.
This is correct. The As and Ks are generally the worse blockers to use in this line since they block the biggest portion of folding hands for IP.
Thanks for the screenshots! Looks like Qs or worse is approximately the threshold for when we would consider bluffing with a spade hand?
I was kinda surprised to see 87o only bluffing with a spade. Am I right in saying that the T river reduces OOP's value betting region (i.e. fewer top pairs), and so OOP has to be picky with bluffs? Does the 87 also block lots of IP's folding range here - A8, A7, 88, 77, 87, J8?
Yeah, Qs is about the threshold since it doesn't block as many folding hands for IP as the Ks and As do.
You're right about the 87o reasoning. Note that our range is very wide compared to a 6-max spot so we need to be more picky with our bluffing hand choices in general.
At 10.45 on 983r64
Your opponent overbets the river and you said that the solver doesn't like this bet size. Why would it not like using this size? BTN checked back twice and is very capped, so 9x and a strong 8 seem like they are worth an overbet for BB, along with some of the trapping hands that BB had on the turn. What am I missing here?
I think my words here were a bit too blunt to be honest.
What I wanted to say is that OOP on the x down lines in SRP doesn't normally want to use very large sizings since it doesn't want to split the range to the point that sizing up this way weakens the rest of the range too much.
Looks like on this particular spot splitting between 25% and 100% is best. That split I can get behind but you won't normally see > 100% size being used on this line AFAIK.
The solver seems to spread it's bets across most sizes here, I guess it can do that because it just bets most value hands for what they're worth and then balances each range. Obviously the block sizing here is somewhat necessary, so then you are looking to add in one extra size? And the pot size fits more of your value hands than the overbet, because there are way more hands that want to pot than go larger?
I think you're spot on!
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