Why didn't I think of this nice concise way to say this? Haha. I strongly agree with you here, Hustla. A lot of players have plenty of talent, but are doomed before they even sit down because of flaws in their approach or attitude. Cheers and GL.
I have an Elite account, but yet I am always watching your videos Mr. R, thank you for the great content --- I really wish someone made this video back in 2004
Oh man, if I saw a video on this topic in 2004 it would have saved me an unbelievable amount of headaches and stress, haha. I've had to learn many of these lessons the hard way at times, and now I'm hoping to share what I've learned with RIO so that people avoid making the same mistakes :)
That's a major compliment to say you're watching my videos when you have access to everyone's. However, I think you're missing out a bit if you're watching my stuff ahead of Phil's, Sean's, Jason's, James, etc. There is some absolutely killer content out there that simply is at another level than mine. And now we've got new guys with tons to offer in the mix, most notable Sauce, but as well as Stevie444 and Sam Greenwood.
Cheers though man, and thank you for the kind words. GL!
Holy smokes! That is one helluva downswing. Props to you for continuing to watch videos and work through it. May variance be as kind to you as it's been cruel...
This is one of the best compliments I can receive. I'm very (self) conscious about my speaking and instructing skills in videos. I know early on there was tons of room for improvement. I've seen a bit of progress myself, but it's huge to hear it from an independent perspective. Thank you! Hopefully I will only continue to get more comfortable with it and continue to improve.
Haha, well said. Thankfully we're all human, and therefore prone to mistakes. A lot of times winning players can become losing players in a given session, week, month, or beyond. A few mistakes in some important areas can be all it takes to get on the wrong track. To be quite honest, a lot of the things I talked about in this video are things that I still make mistakes with today. In poker the game and in poker the career there is just an incredible amount of instances where one can make a mistake. It truly is part of the nature of the game. No matter how aware we are of what's right and what's a mistake, we're bound to make some. We must not dwell on these mistakes too long, but rather learn what we can, and let that consciously sink in, and then simply move on.
Wow. Thank you guys for such a positive response and all of the compliments. I appreciate these comments a ton. Especially because I was so unsure of how this topic would be received, and if people would find it interesting. I feel that experience is my greatest asset as an instructor, and I'm thrilled that I'm able to share some of that with you in a way that everyone can relate to and understand. Cheers everyone! And thank you again.
I don't have passion for this stupid fucked up game, I hope it burns in hell, but I have a lot of passion for the lifestyle of poker player, which no other profession other than pro poker player has. It's all about the freedom pro poker players have. And it's also very good to be good at something. And also I have no other passion what so ever. I think, you are what you do, you don't do what you are. You do something that is maybe not even for you, and after a while, that's who you become.
I can't really disagree with anything that you said. I can see it being possible for someone to make their way in poker without a passion for it, much like you described. Basically, if they play enough, they will develop the skills necessary to win (most likely). Now for this person, all of this play is going to be a chore instead of enjoyment, and without the benefit of a legitimate passion to keep them going during tough times. But, it's possible to make it work. I suppose if you like the lifestyle of a poker player enough, it will make it worth suffering through playing a game that you hope burns in hell for a living every day.
In practice I feel like I see far less of people of that mindset having success in poker. Whereas the players that have passion for the game, I see continually thriving. Then the players that have passion, and an amazing mental aptitude, those are your elite players at the very top of the game.
Your last line is interesting. I think that can be true. I have seen it out there in the world. However, I think you're underestimating the human power to choose. Free will. You always have a choice to change what you do in a given day, and to large extend, you also have a lot of influence over who you ultimately become. This may be taking this too far, though. Your point about trudging through a job that you hate for a long period of time, and that becoming normal for you, that becoming tolerable, and that becoming who you are, is very fair. That happens with a lot of people.
GL and I hope you find some way to enjoy poker and appreciate the game for all of it's complexity and beauty :)
Well, actually, the videos here inspire me with poker a lot. I started watching yesterday.
The level of detail in the videos is crazy and it's inspiring to see how sophisticated the thinking of poker pros are and also how much there is for me to potentially improve. Maybe there is a motivation to become really good at something like poker, as long as people will still play poker in the future.
I think the motivations and all that stuff is very complicated. I think that for example if there was no poker on planet earth, then Phil Ivey would have become great on something else, although maybe he only loves poker and nothing else. I think this subject is very complicated. I suppose some people start with playing poker and end up learning game theory and end up as mathematicians because they enjoy the math the most. I don't know about what my motivations really are, or how strong they are, or if they change. I don't know any of that stuff. But it's pretty inspiring to see high quality videos with great explaining of poker theory.
Good timing nick ! love the concept. This is why we always have to push and give our 120% and be on top of the ladder. like they say be phenominal or be forgotten
but in the end passion and motivation is what should drive you to wake up everyday with a smile and griiiind
Great video, most of us know this things now buts it vital to don't forget them and repeat that thoughts in our minds when and if we have! to! The hard thing is to manage to apply them.
Okay good suggestions. That's not something I had ever thought to do. I will keep that in my mind for the next time I do a video with slides like this :)
great video nick! This is exactly what i needed to hear. I am very strict with following bankroll management but in the 6 months that I have been playing I have had 3 monkey tilt days where I lost 80%, 70%, and 50% of my roll playing too high or black jack. Since those days I have made a poker journal, and have been reading books to improve my mental game. I am mentally tough, but what I didn't realise is being tough 95% of the time doesn't cut it. It only takes 3 minutes to loose your roll, and I know that now. When it comes to the mental approach to poker lets face it we need to be nits, and treat it like a business. Something I am very happy to see you spend time reiterating, because it is important.
Woow, powerful story man. Okay so now you're learned the lesson though, right? No more making the same mistake. You're far from alone in making this mistake in this game, and in fact I'm right there with you in that club. However, you would be joining pretty dubious company if you didn't learn from this mistake and instead let him happen another time or two. Remember the shit feeling you had after playing that blackjack, and playing too high, and don't let yourself ever feel that way again. I think you're going to be just fine because first of all, you know it's a mistake. 2nd of all, you're honest with yourself and accept responsibility for making that mistake. Lastly, you have good habits to begin with to fall back on and reinforce. Be perfect from here on out man, there isn't a lot of margin for error in this game.
One additional point to add in terms of the overall theme of discipline is quitting a session. We have all had the experience of playing too long and to the point where we are tired and unable to play our A game. Sometimes this just means playing with a smaller edge, although sometimes it means making large mistakes that give away all of our edge that we worked hard to accumulate throughout the entire session. It's important to be be honest and unbiased with yourself when you think you may want to quit. Re-examine that decision to stay or quit away from the tables. If you find yourself playing too long very often, quitting is a skill that you can practice and get better at over time.
I hope you see this message Nick, Great video its got me thinking alot. Whether im passionate about poker or im just addicted/obessed . I play MTT's recreationally but fairly often. When im facing variance and i make a mistake i beat myself up about it. However i dont give up i keep playing and trying to improve my game. I enjoy watching videos and learning but now am confused what i truly feel about the game. I think about it all the time i have goals and am fairly proactive. ><
I've been a MS cash game pro for a couple of years now and despite knowing all this facts it's always nice to remind yourself. Very well structured video with a great analysis. GG sir!
That's a great video Buddy. I just Signed in and this is the second video i watch, made it worth every penny.
Good explain about Poker Career and all the careful we must have to begin the persue of Poker Player. Only thing i desagree, and i really hope that things changes soon as possible, its about the Contracts and the results. Maybe some sponsors starts looking at Poker as a real Sport like basketball, football and others with all the audience and we could search for a good Sponsor to break the variance and make an extra money, comming from other way. That would be great! :)
Great video. Hopefully 3 years later is still not too late to transition to MTT. You speak Poker side is easier to work on than personal side. Personally I think both side are very complex.
I don't agree that all your focus should be on poker and look at every few hrs you spend on something else as time for poker. That just creates stress for us as players when we try to take a break from poker. Galfond even says to make time for yourself to have other interest outside of poker so when things go wrong you don't tilt as bad. We tilt worse when all our focus on poker and things go wrong. It gives u a unhappy life style if all you do is focus on poker. Which i also used to do but I took Phils advice i tilt less and play a lot better. Even doyle etc a lot of the old school players always need to take days off from poker so you don't go nuts. Don't matter how much you love poker if you do it all the time you will get tired of it. Just like eating the same food every day.
I know a great player one of the best I ever seen play heads up with a very unique passive weak style that switches gears once in awhile to a hyper aggro style that actually wins he has the best hand reading skills I ever seen. Some of the sickest hero calls I ever seen the guy even won a pot with 7 high. ANd he blows it all on sports gambling. Hes probably made around a million at poker and lost it all to sports gambling.... YOu make a great point a lot of people blow there winnings on gambling.
First video I have watched on RIO - and if you were to show any rec player this video who wants to turn Poker into not just a past time, but a profitable endeavour, whether that be as a side venture, or a full time career, this should be the first thing anyone watches. Discipline is the key. If you don't have discipline, you do not win.
This video is amazing. Thank you for breaking down these concepts so calmly. I feel that they are neglected elsewhere albeit actually being to big picture to win at poker and even life.
Thank you for creating this.
Great starter video for getting in the mindset for making poker a profession. I have had this dream for about 5 years now and am just starting to have things click and work out, however, maybe this is live player problems but how in the heck does one get backed?!? I have a pt job that supplements my bankroll if needed but I also just would love to try it out as I am playing consistently and have a decent hourly (that I obviously want to improve on.) Maybe I am too shy or naïve, I'm not sure but I really want to figure it out!
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Great vid, thanks for this Nick
Being able to see your videos for just $10/month is way too cheap. It should be part of the elite plan imo.
omg dude, don't say that.
dude ! xD
you seem to enjoy hurting yourself...weirdo ;-)
They fixed this problem by changing the essential plan to $25/mo
Nice video. Liked the change to something diferent onec in a while
LiquidSw0rd > Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!..
Great video even for cash game players
Mental toughness + discipline is like 80% of steady winrate.
Talent and intelligence only gets you so far.
Why didn't I think of this nice concise way to say this? Haha. I strongly agree with you here, Hustla. A lot of players have plenty of talent, but are doomed before they even sit down because of flaws in their approach or attitude. Cheers and GL.
great vid thanks
Great video, I've really been looking forward to a video on this topic! Thanks!
Awesome vid. A lot of stuff we all need to hear. Maintaining passion is a hard thing at times. Like Danny Negreanu once said: "You gotta have faith."
Very Good Vid!
I have an Elite account, but yet I am always watching your videos Mr. R, thank you for the great content --- I really wish someone made this video back in 2004
Oh man, if I saw a video on this topic in 2004 it would have saved me an unbelievable amount of headaches and stress, haha. I've had to learn many of these lessons the hard way at times, and now I'm hoping to share what I've learned with RIO so that people avoid making the same mistakes :)
That's a major compliment to say you're watching my videos when you have access to everyone's. However, I think you're missing out a bit if you're watching my stuff ahead of Phil's, Sean's, Jason's, James, etc. There is some absolutely killer content out there that simply is at another level than mine. And now we've got new guys with tons to offer in the mix, most notable Sauce, but as well as Stevie444 and Sam Greenwood.
Cheers though man, and thank you for the kind words. GL!
Just what i needed after ~ 1000 bb downswing! Great video and great improvment by you as a coach from your first videos.
Holy smokes! That is one helluva downswing. Props to you for continuing to watch videos and work through it. May variance be as kind to you as it's been cruel...
This is one of the best compliments I can receive. I'm very (self) conscious about my speaking and instructing skills in videos. I know early on there was tons of room for improvement. I've seen a bit of progress myself, but it's huge to hear it from an independent perspective. Thank you! Hopefully I will only continue to get more comfortable with it and continue to improve.
Great Vid! thanks
Excellent video, good luck at the tables.
Thanks Eddie! I'm glad you liked it. Good luck to you as well.
Great video! Cool thoughts!
Easy to understand, difficult to apply. If everybody could do this on day to day basis, there would have been no losing players :)
Haha, well said. Thankfully we're all human, and therefore prone to mistakes. A lot of times winning players can become losing players in a given session, week, month, or beyond. A few mistakes in some important areas can be all it takes to get on the wrong track. To be quite honest, a lot of the things I talked about in this video are things that I still make mistakes with today. In poker the game and in poker the career there is just an incredible amount of instances where one can make a mistake. It truly is part of the nature of the game. No matter how aware we are of what's right and what's a mistake, we're bound to make some. We must not dwell on these mistakes too long, but rather learn what we can, and let that consciously sink in, and then simply move on.
Gracias, bro =D
Wow. Thank you guys for such a positive response and all of the compliments. I appreciate these comments a ton. Especially because I was so unsure of how this topic would be received, and if people would find it interesting. I feel that experience is my greatest asset as an instructor, and I'm thrilled that I'm able to share some of that with you in a way that everyone can relate to and understand. Cheers everyone! And thank you again.
I don't have passion for this stupid fucked up game, I hope it burns in hell, but I have a lot of passion for the lifestyle of poker player, which no other profession other than pro poker player has. It's all about the freedom pro poker players have. And it's also very good to be good at something. And also I have no other passion what so ever. I think, you are what you do, you don't do what you are. You do something that is maybe not even for you, and after a while, that's who you become.
I can't really disagree with anything that you said. I can see it being possible for someone to make their way in poker without a passion for it, much like you described. Basically, if they play enough, they will develop the skills necessary to win (most likely). Now for this person, all of this play is going to be a chore instead of enjoyment, and without the benefit of a legitimate passion to keep them going during tough times. But, it's possible to make it work. I suppose if you like the lifestyle of a poker player enough, it will make it worth suffering through playing a game that you hope burns in hell for a living every day.
In practice I feel like I see far less of people of that mindset having success in poker. Whereas the players that have passion for the game, I see continually thriving. Then the players that have passion, and an amazing mental aptitude, those are your elite players at the very top of the game.
Your last line is interesting. I think that can be true. I have seen it out there in the world. However, I think you're underestimating the human power to choose. Free will. You always have a choice to change what you do in a given day, and to large extend, you also have a lot of influence over who you ultimately become. This may be taking this too far, though. Your point about trudging through a job that you hate for a long period of time, and that becoming normal for you, that becoming tolerable, and that becoming who you are, is very fair. That happens with a lot of people.
GL and I hope you find some way to enjoy poker and appreciate the game for all of it's complexity and beauty :)
Well, actually, the videos here inspire me with poker a lot. I started watching yesterday.
The level of detail in the videos is crazy and it's inspiring to see how sophisticated the thinking of poker pros are and also how much there is for me to potentially improve. Maybe there is a motivation to become really good at something like poker, as long as people will still play poker in the future.
I think the motivations and all that stuff is very complicated. I think that for example if there was no poker on planet earth, then Phil Ivey would have become great on something else, although maybe he only loves poker and nothing else. I think this subject is very complicated. I suppose some people start with playing poker and end up learning game theory and end up as mathematicians because they enjoy the math the most. I don't know about what my motivations really are, or how strong they are, or if they change. I don't know any of that stuff. But it's pretty inspiring to see high quality videos with great explaining of poker theory.
Good timing nick ! love the concept. This is why we always have to push and give our 120% and be on top of the ladder. like they say be phenominal or be forgotten
but in the end passion and motivation is what should drive you to wake up everyday with a smile and griiiind
Great video, most of us know this things now buts it vital to don't forget them and repeat that thoughts in our minds when and if we have! to! The hard thing is to manage to apply them.
Would be great to add captions
Okay good suggestions. That's not something I had ever thought to do. I will keep that in my mind for the next time I do a video with slides like this :)
great video nick! This is exactly what i needed to hear. I am very strict with following bankroll management but in the 6 months that I have been playing I have had 3 monkey tilt days where I lost 80%, 70%, and 50% of my roll playing too high or black jack. Since those days I have made a poker journal, and have been reading books to improve my mental game. I am mentally tough, but what I didn't realise is being tough 95% of the time doesn't cut it. It only takes 3 minutes to loose your roll, and I know that now. When it comes to the mental approach to poker lets face it we need to be nits, and treat it like a business. Something I am very happy to see you spend time reiterating, because it is important.
Woow, powerful story man. Okay so now you're learned the lesson though, right? No more making the same mistake. You're far from alone in making this mistake in this game, and in fact I'm right there with you in that club. However, you would be joining pretty dubious company if you didn't learn from this mistake and instead let him happen another time or two. Remember the shit feeling you had after playing that blackjack, and playing too high, and don't let yourself ever feel that way again. I think you're going to be just fine because first of all, you know it's a mistake. 2nd of all, you're honest with yourself and accept responsibility for making that mistake. Lastly, you have good habits to begin with to fall back on and reinforce. Be perfect from here on out man, there isn't a lot of margin for error in this game.
I want to thank you Nick for this video and sharing your thoughts.
It sure will give a chance to all other,including me, who watched this to learn from others peoples mistakes and to not do the same one on their own.
I will make some new plans for my poker carier now.
+1 - one of the best videos I've ever seen on this topic
One additional point to add in terms of the overall theme of discipline is quitting a session. We have all had the experience of playing too long and to the point where we are tired and unable to play our A game. Sometimes this just means playing with a smaller edge, although sometimes it means making large mistakes that give away all of our edge that we worked hard to accumulate throughout the entire session. It's important to be be honest and unbiased with yourself when you think you may want to quit. Re-examine that decision to stay or quit away from the tables. If you find yourself playing too long very often, quitting is a skill that you can practice and get better at over time.
I hope you see this message Nick, Great video its got me thinking alot. Whether im passionate about poker or im just addicted/obessed . I play MTT's recreationally but fairly often. When im facing variance and i make a mistake i beat myself up about it. However i dont give up i keep playing and trying to improve my game. I enjoy watching videos and learning but now am confused what i truly feel about the game. I think about it all the time i have goals and am fairly proactive. ><
Old, but gold. Great video!
I've been a MS cash game pro for a couple of years now and despite knowing all this facts it's always nice to remind yourself. Very well structured video with a great analysis. GG sir!
That's a great video Buddy. I just Signed in and this is the second video i watch, made it worth every penny.
Good explain about Poker Career and all the careful we must have to begin the persue of Poker Player. Only thing i desagree, and i really hope that things changes soon as possible, its about the Contracts and the results. Maybe some sponsors starts looking at Poker as a real Sport like basketball, football and others with all the audience and we could search for a good Sponsor to break the variance and make an extra money, comming from other way. That would be great! :)
Everybody that wants to be a poker pro should see this video, really great video. Thanks for doing it, it really helped me.
Great video. Hopefully 3 years later is still not too late to transition to MTT. You speak Poker side is easier to work on than personal side. Personally I think both side are very complex.
awesome. Im just starting, and it is good to start with a clear north to follow.
Old but gold, a lot of truths in this one.
First vid I watch on Run it Once and I can tell I'm going to like it here. Thank you Nick!
Cheapest table games in Vegas is in the el Cortez on Fremont street. They break your chips in to $.25 chips. You feel like a boss with $20.
Great vídeo Nick, su hijo a good material. Thanks
I don't agree that all your focus should be on poker and look at every few hrs you spend on something else as time for poker. That just creates stress for us as players when we try to take a break from poker. Galfond even says to make time for yourself to have other interest outside of poker so when things go wrong you don't tilt as bad. We tilt worse when all our focus on poker and things go wrong. It gives u a unhappy life style if all you do is focus on poker. Which i also used to do but I took Phils advice i tilt less and play a lot better. Even doyle etc a lot of the old school players always need to take days off from poker so you don't go nuts. Don't matter how much you love poker if you do it all the time you will get tired of it. Just like eating the same food every day.
I know a great player one of the best I ever seen play heads up with a very unique passive weak style that switches gears once in awhile to a hyper aggro style that actually wins he has the best hand reading skills I ever seen. Some of the sickest hero calls I ever seen the guy even won a pot with 7 high. ANd he blows it all on sports gambling. Hes probably made around a million at poker and lost it all to sports gambling.... YOu make a great point a lot of people blow there winnings on gambling.
First video I have watched on RIO - and if you were to show any rec player this video who wants to turn Poker into not just a past time, but a profitable endeavour, whether that be as a side venture, or a full time career, this should be the first thing anyone watches. Discipline is the key. If you don't have discipline, you do not win.
This video is amazing. Thank you for breaking down these concepts so calmly. I feel that they are neglected elsewhere albeit actually being to big picture to win at poker and even life.
Thank you for creating this.
This is my first video here, I've just subscribed. Thanks for that, there are good concepts that I was aware of and you reinforced. Thanks Nick.
Thank you !
Long time online mtt grinder here. Some really solid stuff bro thanks
Great starter video for getting in the mindset for making poker a profession. I have had this dream for about 5 years now and am just starting to have things click and work out, however, maybe this is live player problems but how in the heck does one get backed?!? I have a pt job that supplements my bankroll if needed but I also just would love to try it out as I am playing consistently and have a decent hourly (that I obviously want to improve on.) Maybe I am too shy or naïve, I'm not sure but I really want to figure it out!
G G , Ran It Twice !!
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