I think the A7 when u bet flop check turn is a call on river for half pot... unless you have a really strong read that's hes way to unbalanced... if I ever fold there its because I totally disrespect my opponents game
Yeah I'm not in love with this either. I'm not saying that now I think it's a call, but just reiterating what I said in the video - That I don't know. In think in spots like that you're using a better framework to solve the problem than I am. I was relying on pure hand reading and tendency estimation. Those skills are great, but they only get you so far. You're incorporating game theory and what portion of your range you have to take this stance on this hand. I think that's smart. I have near the top of my range, I should call. Additionally, I'm vs a wide range with plenty of conceivable bluffs - more arguments for me to call. I should call!
i think KTdiamonds shove when you ran into JJ seems fine vs many people... i don't know how to read ur hud... 18bbs... hopefully we can get more opinions
Yeah I think this is fine too. Optimal, even. It would take a pretty wacky range from the SB player here to make this shove not profitable. One key to note here in spots like this is if the villain in the SB is simply shoving preflop with the mediocre portions of his range. Hands like 44 A5o and K9o, or if he's raise calling those. The answer to that question totally skews the math involved here, so it's crucial to know which category the villain falls into.
I think this point applies to both preflop and postflop though you know. I thought in-game that with his open size and general loose tendenices that he would be fine to gamble with whatever hand he had given that he was getting a good price. The other side of the coin is that he is a loose villain, therefore is opening a wide range, and therefore can't call a shove as often as most because he has so many worse hands. A big question becomes how prepared to gamble is he in this moment?
Hey Nick. Nice vid. I liked what you said about basically having respect for each tournament because of how tough it is to make money these days. And also about really honing in on player tendencies when it gets down to crunch time. The best always do that in any field of play, it seems.
I'm really big on these two things. In the past, I remember busting a tournament deep and then just giving away my chips in the mid-stages of my remaining two tournaments. Well that sort of thing simply won't cut it any more. I had to get a little more disciplined, and clean up that sort of behavior from my game. Honing in on player tendencies is crucial! It's also fun. Everyone has their own twist on how poker is played. Each player has watched different videos, experienced different paths to get to where they're at now, and simply see and understand the game differently. Getting deep in a tournament, or down to your last two or three for the day is the best part for me, because you get to dissect your opponents and figure out how they're thinking about the game. There's no better feeling than having your diligence in studying their tendencies pay off on a crucial read or play that no one else at the table would have gotten because they're not focusing as much as you, or working as hard to understand their opponents. I'm always trying to develop that skill even further and see what kind of new things I can discover about my opponents.
A7 hand, ill do a call there based on country of origin of player, british if i saw correctly, and of their play habits i noticed they like to bluff bet on river missed draws...and very often and many of them..idk why cause its so bad bluff,so if i were dwelling that lil info wuld lean me towards call ~ great vid btw~ :) looking forward next~ tc and gl at tables :)
You bring up a couple of really good points that I hadn't considered. I didn't think to look at where the villain was from. I must have put my mouse over him so his country popped up for a second, but this is just me having a habit of doing that, and I didn't actually look at what country popped up in this case. Haha.
I also had no idea of his playing habits. I even went back and watched the video after it was released and I still didn't pick up anything specific on him. I wasn't looking carefully enough and you were - good eye! Everyone seems to be thinking this is a call, and to be honest I like all of your guys' reasons better than mine, so now I think I should've called as well. Thanks for watching as always Aleksandra, good luck to you!
I think the AA hand about 50 minutes in, where you shove.
I think calling is better or just click it back, even it looks superstrong. But very often you will at least get a preflop call. And if he flops TP or a overpair on most boards you can get his stack, or just check the flop and hope he spazz out with some bluffs.
I agree with you. I think I should make a small reraise that he feels compelled to call with his pot odds. I think the chances that he 1. Sniffs it out as a monster and 2. folds because of it, are lower than that chances that he doesn't have a hand strong enough to call me when I shove over his open. Because of that, I'm losing value I don't have to lose. I'm not sure where calling fits into this equation. On one hand, I ensure that I get him to the flop where he can stack off far too light vs my concealed monster, but on the other I may lose value from a hand like 99 that would definitely call my shove, but might not put in another chip on boards like QJ7 or something.
If I were to 3b pre, I like checking or betting tiny on a lot of flops. Checking on boards that look bad for AK (I can check and rep AK) and betting small on boards that it looks like I'd bet with my whole range, AA, AK and air.
28:35 bottom left, folded to a button who minraises and we fold A7s from the sb 44bb effective. I think we need to do something there pretty much every time because we crush his button opening range so much. You had a lot of other things going at that moment so I understand that this fold is an exception, right?
A7o hand is against a "normal"close imo, he called from sb so his range should be so weak but seeing his stats it looks like he is playing 50/40, so I think its more of a call against this player. In my experience they sometimes they show some mid pocket pairs turned into a bluff on the river. Also looking on his vpip from sb and his positional awarenes would help with this decision imo(eg how wide his range is from sb).
AA hand on the end, against tight stats I think its better to shove to not lose him postflop against looser stats like this guy had 30/31 maybe its better to call and try to at least capture a cbet... because there will be a sidepot since the allin of a shortstack was only about half the big blind... I think in this instance a call is better.
Hey Atwu, thanks for leaving so much good feedback. I liked the points you made a lot.
@ A7s SB: You're analysis is correct in every way. I need to play this pot. That opponent is certainly going to be wide enough OTB for me to profitably continue. I think calling and 3bing are fine. I think you got the reason for me folding correct, because of talking about other spots on the video. This is still a very weak excuse and I'm disappointed with myself for letting it happen. I hadn't noticed that, so thank you for pointing it out. In the future I'll make sure not to sacrifice EV on one table just because I'm in a pot on another.
@A7o river fold: You agree with other posters that this is a call. This, combined with me not being able to provide a great reason for a fold, is enough for me to agree that I should have called the river here in this spot. My favorite part of your post was when you said that you often see players show up with mid pocket pairs in this spot. I think it's so important to be keeping track mentally of these tendencies of your opponents. It seems like a basic concept, but I often find that players focus on each hand individually, and don't do a good job of forming mental archives of all the showdowns they see. I think looking deeply into the HUD, into his positional stats, is a good idea in theory. The problem is that I don't think I have nearly enough of a sample on him for those stats to be meaningful. However, I can make some pretty safe assumptions about a villain when I see him playing 50% of hands over more than an orbit or two. I can assign him "Wide" ranges in general, and be pretty confident in proceeding based on that, even though I don't exactly how wide his range is.
@ AA: I agree that I should not shove preflop. I think I should 3b, as strong as that looks. In my post above I talk about why. I was unsure if flat calling was better than shoving, but I think that it is. You make a great point about the villains loose stats, and thus wide opening range: He simply has too many hands that will fold to a shove. Not to mention he'll likely assume I'm shoving tighter because of the player who's allin.
Thanks for watching and for leaving feedback. I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. Good luck out there.
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nice real time reactions... haha no more prescripted stuff... ive been looking forward to this!
I think the A7 when u bet flop check turn is a call on river for half pot... unless you have a really strong read that's hes way to unbalanced... if I ever fold there its because I totally disrespect my opponents game
i don't know how to read your hud...
HUD is VPIP/RaiseFirst(not PFR) / FoldToSteal/Totalhands
FoldTo3b/3b/FoldToCbet/Cbet/Cbet when checked to.
Yeah I'm not in love with this either. I'm not saying that now I think it's a call, but just reiterating what I said in the video - That I don't know. In think in spots like that you're using a better framework to solve the problem than I am. I was relying on pure hand reading and tendency estimation. Those skills are great, but they only get you so far. You're incorporating game theory and what portion of your range you have to take this stance on this hand. I think that's smart. I have near the top of my range, I should call. Additionally, I'm vs a wide range with plenty of conceivable bluffs - more arguments for me to call. I should call!
i think KTdiamonds shove when you ran into JJ seems fine vs many people... i don't know how to read ur hud... 18bbs... hopefully we can get more opinions
Yeah I think this is fine too. Optimal, even. It would take a pretty wacky range from the SB player here to make this shove not profitable. One key to note here in spots like this is if the villain in the SB is simply shoving preflop with the mediocre portions of his range. Hands like 44 A5o and K9o, or if he's raise calling those. The answer to that question totally skews the math involved here, so it's crucial to know which category the villain falls into.
there was a short stack all in so ur gonna look strong when u start to put money in... i like the all in...
when you had AA
I think this point applies to both preflop and postflop though you know. I thought in-game that with his open size and general loose tendenices that he would be fine to gamble with whatever hand he had given that he was getting a good price. The other side of the coin is that he is a loose villain, therefore is opening a wide range, and therefore can't call a shove as often as most because he has so many worse hands. A big question becomes how prepared to gamble is he in this moment?
good video i like to see your reactions in game ... real time... thanks keep it up!
Thanks for all the feedback eric! Gl
Hey Nick. Nice vid. I liked what you said about basically having respect for each tournament because of how tough it is to make money these days. And also about really honing in on player tendencies when it gets down to crunch time. The best always do that in any field of play, it seems.
I'm really big on these two things. In the past, I remember busting a tournament deep and then just giving away my chips in the mid-stages of my remaining two tournaments. Well that sort of thing simply won't cut it any more. I had to get a little more disciplined, and clean up that sort of behavior from my game. Honing in on player tendencies is crucial! It's also fun. Everyone has their own twist on how poker is played. Each player has watched different videos, experienced different paths to get to where they're at now, and simply see and understand the game differently. Getting deep in a tournament, or down to your last two or three for the day is the best part for me, because you get to dissect your opponents and figure out how they're thinking about the game. There's no better feeling than having your diligence in studying their tendencies pay off on a crucial read or play that no one else at the table would have gotten because they're not focusing as much as you, or working as hard to understand their opponents. I'm always trying to develop that skill even further and see what kind of new things I can discover about my opponents.
A7 hand, ill do a call there based on country of origin of player, british if i saw correctly, and of their play habits i noticed they like to bluff bet on river missed draws...and very often and many of them..idk why cause its so bad bluff,so if i were dwelling that lil info wuld lean me towards call ~ great vid btw~ :) looking forward next~ tc and gl at tables :)
You bring up a couple of really good points that I hadn't considered. I didn't think to look at where the villain was from. I must have put my mouse over him so his country popped up for a second, but this is just me having a habit of doing that, and I didn't actually look at what country popped up in this case. Haha.
I also had no idea of his playing habits. I even went back and watched the video after it was released and I still didn't pick up anything specific on him. I wasn't looking carefully enough and you were - good eye! Everyone seems to be thinking this is a call, and to be honest I like all of your guys' reasons better than mine, so now I think I should've called as well. Thanks for watching as always Aleksandra, good luck to you!
I think the AA hand about 50 minutes in, where you shove.
I think calling is better or just click it back, even it looks superstrong. But very often you will at least get a preflop call. And if he flops TP or a overpair on most boards you can get his stack, or just check the flop and hope he spazz out with some bluffs.
I agree with you. I think I should make a small reraise that he feels compelled to call with his pot odds. I think the chances that he 1. Sniffs it out as a monster and 2. folds because of it, are lower than that chances that he doesn't have a hand strong enough to call me when I shove over his open. Because of that, I'm losing value I don't have to lose. I'm not sure where calling fits into this equation. On one hand, I ensure that I get him to the flop where he can stack off far too light vs my concealed monster, but on the other I may lose value from a hand like 99 that would definitely call my shove, but might not put in another chip on boards like QJ7 or something.
If I were to 3b pre, I like checking or betting tiny on a lot of flops. Checking on boards that look bad for AK (I can check and rep AK) and betting small on boards that it looks like I'd bet with my whole range, AA, AK and air.
Hey,
28:35 bottom left, folded to a button who minraises and we fold A7s from the sb 44bb effective. I think we need to do something there pretty much every time because we crush his button opening range so much. You had a lot of other things going at that moment so I understand that this fold is an exception, right?
A7o hand is against a "normal"close imo, he called from sb so his range should be so weak but seeing his stats it looks like he is playing 50/40, so I think its more of a call against this player. In my experience they sometimes they show some mid pocket pairs turned into a bluff on the river. Also looking on his vpip from sb and his positional awarenes would help with this decision imo(eg how wide his range is from sb).
AA hand on the end, against tight stats I think its better to shove to not lose him postflop against looser stats like this guy had 30/31 maybe its better to call and try to at least capture a cbet... because there will be a sidepot since the allin of a shortstack was only about half the big blind... I think in this instance a call is better.
Overall nice videos, thx.
Hey Atwu, thanks for leaving so much good feedback. I liked the points you made a lot.
@ A7s SB: You're analysis is correct in every way. I need to play this pot. That opponent is certainly going to be wide enough OTB for me to profitably continue. I think calling and 3bing are fine. I think you got the reason for me folding correct, because of talking about other spots on the video. This is still a very weak excuse and I'm disappointed with myself for letting it happen. I hadn't noticed that, so thank you for pointing it out. In the future I'll make sure not to sacrifice EV on one table just because I'm in a pot on another.
@A7o river fold: You agree with other posters that this is a call. This, combined with me not being able to provide a great reason for a fold, is enough for me to agree that I should have called the river here in this spot. My favorite part of your post was when you said that you often see players show up with mid pocket pairs in this spot. I think it's so important to be keeping track mentally of these tendencies of your opponents. It seems like a basic concept, but I often find that players focus on each hand individually, and don't do a good job of forming mental archives of all the showdowns they see. I think looking deeply into the HUD, into his positional stats, is a good idea in theory. The problem is that I don't think I have nearly enough of a sample on him for those stats to be meaningful. However, I can make some pretty safe assumptions about a villain when I see him playing 50% of hands over more than an orbit or two. I can assign him "Wide" ranges in general, and be pretty confident in proceeding based on that, even though I don't exactly how wide his range is.
@ AA: I agree that I should not shove preflop. I think I should 3b, as strong as that looks. In my post above I talk about why. I was unsure if flat calling was better than shoving, but I think that it is. You make a great point about the villains loose stats, and thus wide opening range: He simply has too many hands that will fold to a shove. Not to mention he'll likely assume I'm shoving tighter because of the player who's allin.
Thanks for watching and for leaving feedback. I'm glad you're enjoying the videos. Good luck out there.
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