Whats is your reasoning behind this question? I certainly dont make any assertions as to being the best and making every decision correctly. Playing and talking simultaneously is also not my greatest talent, but I feel I like I contribute fairly high level content in my videos.
After reviewing the video I definitely see room for improvement in relaying my thought process while playing live. Also a few instances of me utterly failing to play and talk simulateounsly resulting in some fairly funny folds (t8s to small 3b sticks out).
I always welcome contructive criticism, but random rude comments don't really have a place. Fairly easy to skip my content if you do not enjoy it or find something to learn from it.
Hi Dylan,
@1:30 you mention 77s being a chip +EV jam, but also say it would be bad with how many chips you have.
Why do you think it wouldn't be good as it is +EV and tough to play at this stack depth?
@6:00 what are your thoughts on checking the turn with aces, with the ace of spades and obviously value shoving most rivers.
You mentioned most players over valuing bounties. I personally feel you under value bounties, as on Saturdays the bounties are much more appealing. I may well be completely wrong, interesting topic.
Thanks for the series, enjoying the content
Hey Saiyan, thanks man appreciate it.
@1:30 I agree with you here, which is why I opted with the min raise. Open shoving from this position is probably +cEV but certainly doesnt maximize and makes our range extremely easy to play against.
@6:00 If anything I think we should probably be checking the flop. In general small blind and flatter are all over this board and we shouldnt want to be betting that much 1 pair. I guess stp is low enough that I chose to bet. Another consideration (and why I shoved turn) is that I feel my opponent probably calls all of his hands on the turn when my bounty is on the line, but Im not certain about this logic. Checking turn could be best without bounty considerations
Really hard to pin down the exact value of a bounty in these PSKO tournaments as there are some ICM considerations instead of just going by a $ to chip ratio. Definitely a fine line as to how much chip utility you want to risk on situations that are minus actual chip EV but neutral or potentially plus when adding in bounty value. I easily could be undervalueing it in this more bounty heavy saturday format. There will be an interesting hand coming up in one of the later parts that I very well could have folded something I should have called with.
Hi Dylan, great video.
@ 1:30 77s Isnt it a spot that it makes decent +cEV for jamming and people have to call pretty wide which they don't in order to not make it decent +cEV? Which makes jamming fine but maybe better to jam it 20bb and below. Also on turn K the same hand wouldn't it be fine aswell to check it and call some rivers or maybe bet turn smaller to accomplish the protecting part and loosing less when villain has it.
Thanks Andres :)
As to your question, it certainly is a +cEV spot to shove, the problem I see with it is that it makes it difficult construct an open shoving vs min raising range from ep here and stay relatively balanced. When we start shoving for 20bb in this situation I think that most competent opponents will accurately be able to guess what hands we will be doing this with and know somewhat where our splitting point between min raise and jam is. So while jamming earns us some chips it doesnt maximize our wins but can potentially maximimize our losses as there will be situations where say next to act rejams and someone cold calls that we would love to happily fold w/ only 2bb invested.
As far as barreling the turn I do agree with you that the K is a better card for our range than his, thus we should be able to barrel it with a fairly high frequency and either take a cheapshowdown on river or perhaps bluff some runouts. I believe I chose to check this specific combo because 77 blocks a good amount of hands that call flop and fold turn (bad fds, gutshots, low end straight draws, 87 etc) but I will say that I am not sure about this reasoning. I think I will try to run a sim on this hand and find out as I can see some merits to both lines of thought on the turn.
Great series so far Dylan, thanks and i really appreciate the max. 4-table format, 6-table was way too small
02:00 i was curious about this 20bb eff. spot & run it into PIO and it says that we should check back our 77 here on the turn, for villain to check twice, he really has more 2nd/3rd pairs than nothing combos and can still have some turned top pair. his nothing combos with equity would have lead turn so those that check generally are dead or only 3 outs and we don't need to protect really
04:30 you raise-folded here AJo when covering the reshoving stack with a big $150 bounty and i'm not really sure if that is the correct play?
- as we pay $25 and get 5k start stack, so $75 bounty should be worth 15k, but because we only win half of the bounty directly, its approx. direct chip value should be ~7.5k is that more or less correct?
- so here in this spot, villain has $150 bounty so it's extra 15k in pot for 31.6k total and we need to call 12k given 2.6 to 1 odds? but shall we loose we give up too much value in terms of exploiting the bounty prize pool later in the tourney so you prefer a fold here for that reason?
- if we fold here, i think we are better off just open shoving those hands we want to play at this stack depth in a SPKO?
Interesting to get yur thoughts on this spot
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how the hell are you an elite pro man jesus fkn christ
Whats is your reasoning behind this question? I certainly dont make any assertions as to being the best and making every decision correctly. Playing and talking simultaneously is also not my greatest talent, but I feel I like I contribute fairly high level content in my videos.
After reviewing the video I definitely see room for improvement in relaying my thought process while playing live. Also a few instances of me utterly failing to play and talk simulateounsly resulting in some fairly funny folds (t8s to small 3b sticks out).
I always welcome contructive criticism, but random rude comments don't really have a place. Fairly easy to skip my content if you do not enjoy it or find something to learn from it.
Hi Dylan,
@1:30 you mention 77s being a chip +EV jam, but also say it would be bad with how many chips you have.
Why do you think it wouldn't be good as it is +EV and tough to play at this stack depth?
@6:00 what are your thoughts on checking the turn with aces, with the ace of spades and obviously value shoving most rivers.
You mentioned most players over valuing bounties. I personally feel you under value bounties, as on Saturdays the bounties are much more appealing. I may well be completely wrong, interesting topic.
Thanks for the series, enjoying the content
Hey Saiyan, thanks man appreciate it.
@1:30 I agree with you here, which is why I opted with the min raise. Open shoving from this position is probably +cEV but certainly doesnt maximize and makes our range extremely easy to play against.
@6:00 If anything I think we should probably be checking the flop. In general small blind and flatter are all over this board and we shouldnt want to be betting that much 1 pair. I guess stp is low enough that I chose to bet. Another consideration (and why I shoved turn) is that I feel my opponent probably calls all of his hands on the turn when my bounty is on the line, but Im not certain about this logic. Checking turn could be best without bounty considerations
Really hard to pin down the exact value of a bounty in these PSKO tournaments as there are some ICM considerations instead of just going by a $ to chip ratio. Definitely a fine line as to how much chip utility you want to risk on situations that are minus actual chip EV but neutral or potentially plus when adding in bounty value. I easily could be undervalueing it in this more bounty heavy saturday format. There will be an interesting hand coming up in one of the later parts that I very well could have folded something I should have called with.
Hi Dylan, great video.
@ 1:30 77s Isnt it a spot that it makes decent +cEV for jamming and people have to call pretty wide which they don't in order to not make it decent +cEV? Which makes jamming fine but maybe better to jam it 20bb and below. Also on turn K the same hand wouldn't it be fine aswell to check it and call some rivers or maybe bet turn smaller to accomplish the protecting part and loosing less when villain has it.
Thanks Andres :)
As to your question, it certainly is a +cEV spot to shove, the problem I see with it is that it makes it difficult construct an open shoving vs min raising range from ep here and stay relatively balanced. When we start shoving for 20bb in this situation I think that most competent opponents will accurately be able to guess what hands we will be doing this with and know somewhat where our splitting point between min raise and jam is. So while jamming earns us some chips it doesnt maximize our wins but can potentially maximimize our losses as there will be situations where say next to act rejams and someone cold calls that we would love to happily fold w/ only 2bb invested.
As far as barreling the turn I do agree with you that the K is a better card for our range than his, thus we should be able to barrel it with a fairly high frequency and either take a cheapshowdown on river or perhaps bluff some runouts. I believe I chose to check this specific combo because 77 blocks a good amount of hands that call flop and fold turn (bad fds, gutshots, low end straight draws, 87 etc) but I will say that I am not sure about this reasoning. I think I will try to run a sim on this hand and find out as I can see some merits to both lines of thought on the turn.
Great series so far Dylan, thanks and i really appreciate the max. 4-table format, 6-table was way too small
02:00 i was curious about this 20bb eff. spot & run it into PIO and it says that we should check back our 77 here on the turn, for villain to check twice, he really has more 2nd/3rd pairs than nothing combos and can still have some turned top pair. his nothing combos with equity would have lead turn so those that check generally are dead or only 3 outs and we don't need to protect really
04:30 you raise-folded here AJo when covering the reshoving stack with a big $150 bounty and i'm not really sure if that is the correct play?
- as we pay $25 and get 5k start stack, so $75 bounty should be worth 15k, but because we only win half of the bounty directly, its approx. direct chip value should be ~7.5k is that more or less correct?
- so here in this spot, villain has $150 bounty so it's extra 15k in pot for 31.6k total and we need to call 12k given 2.6 to 1 odds? but shall we loose we give up too much value in terms of exploiting the bounty prize pool later in the tourney so you prefer a fold here for that reason?
- if we fold here, i think we are better off just open shoving those hands we want to play at this stack depth in a SPKO?
Interesting to get yur thoughts on this spot
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