Midstakes NLHE Hand Review (part 1)
Posted by Parker Muir
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2nd hand (A9o), you say that you check back here all your air and then some weaker Kx and low spades (so your range is quite capped). Don't you feel that good regs can exploit this by betting turn and jamming river, since almost everything in your check back range cannot call him down (except something like K7).
Great video btw.
That is a fair point. I can combat this though by calling down with the Qs, or sometimes checking back Asx with a pair.
Thanks.
Great video and selection of hands. The last hand, that was a great play by your opponent to do it with 99. As he made a checkraise, I thought that has to be a T at least. On the turn though, do you think it would be better for him to bet his 9s? To protect and also, since you capped your range by checking back the flop, he should expect to get value from hand like AK, AQ
Yes I think in his position I would have tried to lead the turn and river with my 99 for value versus AK, AQ and A2 like you mentioned.
However him playing his 99 this way definitely worked out in his favor as I did not perceive him to ever play it this way. A good example of how disguising your hand can sometimes net you extra bets.
ty! these hand review videos are gr8!
Glad you enjoyed.
You had my whole attention from the first min to the last. I really enjoyed the hands and your delivery.
17:09 what's the absolute worst hand you would value bet in that spot?
Great.
Probably JJJ. I would definitely bet any spade that I get here with.
Last hand, <when I check im basically playing for showdown value>, reg on reg, dont you see yourself capable of checking almost all your range here? (flop).
I really want to bet most of my air hands on this flop, so I definitely need to have a betting range I think.
Great video, Parker.
How do you like check-jamming with the 77 hand? You get the money from his turn stab, yet don't let him realise him equity, or give him a chance to bluff you on the river. He probably doesn't call with worse, but you'll get him to fold so often that it has to be easily profitable.
Donkeydurrr is indeed a fish. He won some money in a tournament and then donked in the 50/100 games and won a couple of stacks. I think 30k or so.
That turn call was indeed pretty bad. I'd only take my FD equity here, so 20%. Why didn't you just bet 100 on the turn, which you can do with your Tx too?
Thanks!
check-jamming with the 77
I really don't like this for some of the reasons you mentioned. I don't feel the need to protect my equity at all since 2 overcards will only have 13.5% equity vs my hand on the turn. I gain so much more by giving him a chance to bluff on the river. Also, the times he does call with a pair higher than mine, I only have 5% equity to improve! That is extremely bad shape, especially when there is basically no chance of him ever calling with worse.
Why didn't you just bet 100 on the turn, which you can do with your Tx too?
I think the way to play this spot against a guy named Donkeydurrr is to just be almost completely unbalanced. Only bet when I have a T and check back all of my drawing hands. I don't think betting 100 on the turn is much better than my size because it still opens you up to a check-jam thus eliminating your power of position.
Haha @ Donkeydurrrr. He was the rail hero of the highstakesdb forum for a week or so. Think he went busto playing 50/100 hu nl.
Really cool hands. On the last hand when you check flop and turn on that board, I feel like AK is essentially the top of your range, since pairs lower than ten flat his 3bet, and a ten bets flop or turn. I guess you have the occasional K2s or A2 that would play this way as well. Since he likely knows this, wouldn't he bet 99 OTT or OTR, since I doubt many people would expect you to bet AK? It seems like he misses value except on the rare occasion you decide to go for super thin value yourself. Turning his hand into a bluffcatcher (slash super thin value catcher lol) seems very ambitious considering almost all of your bluffs will bet flop. So I guess this is a long-winded way of saying I think I would have called river as well because I don't see many hands that can raise for value in his range.
Yeah I think this is good analysis. He definitely has to weigh the times that the river just checks through and he loses some serious value with his 99.
I respect his game though, so I think it is very possible he felt like I would bet AK and thus went for the own on the river. It's also possible he was playing too many tables and didn't mean to check the turn, but once he got there, realized he could XR. I think he might be a member here, perhaps he can chime in with his thoughts.
I don't feel too bad about my call with pretty much the top of my capped range, but considering I was very close to checking down, it's a pretty big $$ discrepancy.
Also what would be your play if he had lead river? Even though you have one of if not the best hand that gets to the river the way you played it, does he ever bluff that spot?
Pretty much calling anything up to 2/3s pot. It's not ideal, but this is essentially the very top of my range here.
I feel that the way people play these days they wouldn't try to lead the river as a bluff when it is so obvious FI has checked down AK/A2s/K2s so their leading-range on the river would be a hell of a lot unbalanced towards almost always value (66-TT) so I think you could actually exploit that by even folding the AK.
I think it is a misstake to always think "this is essentially the top of my range so therefore I have to call.". AK is actually the bottom/mid/top of your range on the river :). How many hands do you 4bet and get to the river with that are worse then AK?
From a GTO perspective you should call a 2/3 river-lead from him with AK, but when almost no one (regs) is exploaiting you on the river since the perceved common sense is that you would always call the lead with AK/A2s/K2s (which is your range and everyone knows it), then I definitely think it is good to fold and exploit that fact instead of trying to play optimal GTO in a riverspot where it is actually not needed cause no one is exploiting you in it.
So it's just leaking money for no good reason more then just call and see his 99 and say "well at least he sees i'm not folding my AK so next time he will know he can't exploit me in that spot". Well, he was never expecting you to fold AK (which is actually the bottom of most peoples range there), so he will just keep playing perfectly and always valuebet better than AK and always give up with worse because all the regs in the world knows that the GTO approach there is to call with AK.
Hey Parker, is it a big mistake in the first hand with 77 to flat-pre, and then basically 4b/get it in OR Jam over if the squeezy big blind makes a 3bet? And also, which would you prefer? A 4b/call or just a Jam over his raise to like 40? Thank you
Edit: Also, what would you do with 77 if the big blind ended up 4betting pre? Do you think it'd be a good play for the big blind to do that with a small pair?
It's not a big mistake and back jamming works when he is over squeezing for sure. I prefer back jam over a standard 4bet when you are out of position like that. Especially if button flats the squeeze as well.
If the big blind had cold 4b me with 77 it just depends entirely on what I estimate his frequency to be. If i think that he is starting to do it too much, or his frequency is too high then yes 77 will be one of the first hands that I add to my 5b jamming range.
Hey Parker, great video! While analyzing the 77 hand you said you are cbeting this flop a whole lot and that villain knows abt this too since he is a competent reg. In the case we 3bet something like QJo/K10o pre, I would like to ask how should we approach a turn like that? given we did cbet the flop and he is floating a good amount. Are we always check/folding or can we make a case for 2nd barreling? Any stats in specific we should look for to make our decision easier? Thanks
You should definitely choose some hands with overs to fire a second barrel with in order to fold out his Ahighs and floats. Important stats would be how wide he is calling preflop (more stuff for him to float with) and how much he is folding to 3b cbets.
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