Training Fast and Slow
Posted by Max Lacerda
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I like the overall approach. Would you recommend filtering for the same or similar board texture so we can make comparisons about our sizing/frequencies from each position? Or do you think it is best to just keep it random?
Ty for the comment! I personally like to keep it random since in game it's completely random, if I want to compare some similiar boards and see what changes I rather do it just using the solver + aggregated reports.
Great video. I totally agree it is very important to make heuristics with simple words, so you can implement them in practice.
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Js6h4sTs board. I think your guess is correct, solver just jams because of low SPR. It only happens when you bet large OTF and SPR is low enough OTT, which IP needs to call TP to the jam. OOP has many TPTK and over pair that needs protection and can't go anywhere due to low SPR. You can inspect this by making several trees which has exactly same turn range, and differences in pot size.
I note that this does not holds OTR, which goes check around OTF, we bet large and called OTT, and flush brings OTR. You can still jam but can also use small bet size.
Ty for the comment!
I studied this spot afterwards and was ready to post about it once the video went live, so here we go:
Basically what's happening here is that we want to realize all of our equity vs hands that are behind + at the same time being able to deny equity and make some of his draws indifferent.
Thinking about how EV's generated, it's a matchup of all the individual hands in our range vs all the individual hands in our opponents range. So sometimes lowering the EV of our hand when we run into the nuts is compensated by increasing it when running against the middle/bottom part of villain's range.
So basically we can think about what would happen for each option that we have here:
Check: It's true that checking loses less EV vs villain's top range, but we basically have a lot of middling hands here, so when we check and villain bets we are made indifferent + we don't deny any equity
Betting small: It's even worse than checking, cause now we are simply putting money into the pot vs villain's top range at the same time that we aren't denying any equity cause villain will simply click call with all of the draws
Jamming: We're able to deny equity and get called by worse even tho running at the top of the range sometimes.
And what generates all of this is the low SPR. If we start to increase the SPR, the jamming frequency will start to go down. Basically, as I said, on this SPR any money we lose vs the top is compensated by the realization vs the middle/bottom - we can commit worse hands to call while never getting bluffed with this action on this low SPR.
This - betting a big sizing with a condensed range - doesn't happen on high SPRs cause now villain can raise us for value and bluff us sometimes, taking down the pot - the objective of never getting bluffed doesn't happen anymore.
Ty for neat analysis. This kind of supplement helps us a lot. I understood this concept much more deeply.
"betting a big sizing with a condensed range" is perfect words to summarize this.
I realized this concept can be seen more often when we're against short stack. We 3bet preflop more with condensed range, and jamming good pair or even AK OTF.
the objective of never getting bluffed doesn't happen anymore.
This makes so much sense why this does not happen in big SPR.
This was a really helpful video. It was awesome you used wizard too. I use wizard everyday for drills.
19:35 it looks like we 3bet a3-5 a7-a8. I assume these are bluffs. We use these rather than the kx which blocks straights. Is this because the Ax blocks more 2pr?
My first thought on the last hand was certainly spr influencing our action. Your explanation above makes a lot of sense.
Hey, thanks for the comment! GTOW is indeed an awesome tool and one of the best ways to evolve in this game is to drill a lot, so keep it up!
About the hand, imo it's exactly that, whan we think about villain's value range, sure he'll have some straights, but most of the range that he will want to put a lot of money into the pot contains an A, like 2 pairs, the set of AA and AK. Therefore by blocking the A we block more of villain's value range.
one of best videos on RIO. Very nice analysis
Thanks a lot!
I keep watching your videos Max, thx for your great material!
I use a somewhat similar study method, but my approach, up until now, has involved more "brute force". I've been doing something like playing 200 hands with specific textures or configurations and then I allow the heuristics to form naturally.
For example, I'll do 200 post-flop hands as OOP 3bettor on paired boards. As I'm playing the trainer, I develop heuristics in real time and then I'm able to check them as more and more situations come up. I've found that that helps me tease out the nuances... eventually.
I do pause occasionally to do a deeper study when something confuses me, but I really like how you're doing it more frequently here especially with regards to changing subtle details of the texture to double-check if your heuristic is valid. Like I said, the method I've been using has been a bit more of a brute force approach that relies on lots and lots of reps. It isn't as efficient as this process.
Very cool vid. I learned something about learning which is even more valuable than learning something about poker.
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