1:05 why do you prefer a larger sizing on a less connected board? On more connected boards I would think there is less of an eq advantage and more range symmetry so we would go bigger and more polar.
Because on the less connected boards your flop nuts (or very strong hands) will hold their equity on more runouts than in a more connected flop, so you are more comfortable putting more money into the pot since the flop.
While on more connected boards, you want to look for a "safe" turn to start putting in more money with your very strong hands
Interesting question SoundSpeed . I did a little research of my own on this as I remember some of SB vs BTN 3bet pots preferring bigger sizing on 2-tone boards and smaller on rainbow boards (e.g. Ace-Broadway-X boards). Having looked at GTOWizard aggregate reports, and my own aggregate reports, it seems that for the spot in the video (BTN vs CO 3bet pot), Max is right that BTN bets bigger more often on rainbow boards than 2-tone boards. For the SB vs BTN 3bet pot, the larger size gets around 40% of the betting volume (on GTOWizard) regardless of whether the board is rainbow or two-tone. I think it's mainly a product of being out of position causing the 3bettor to want to shovel in money on earlier streets with big pairs on boards that 1 pair is good for stacks if the money goes in soon enough. When IP, the 3bettor gets more options for pot control based on turn/river whereas when OOP the 3bettor doesn't have that luxury so more frequently looks to push it's 1 pair advantage on earlier streets.
My own strategy for 3bet pots SB vs BTN is based on sims with just 1 flop cbet sizing - either 25%, 50% or 75%. I ran all the boards then selected just one cbet sizing for each board based on which had the highest EV. When constructing a strategy in this way, the effect is more extreme, with a bigger preference for the bigger cbet sizing strategy on two-tone boards:
Excellent posts matlittle! Thank you for that information. It males a lot of sense that ip you can pot control and esentially play for safer turns. That is not something I have included in my heuristics for choosing bet sizing. I tend to over simplify and use more or less the same sizing whether ip or oop but make adjustments for board texture, range assymetry and stack sizes (I play a fair bit of tournies).
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Very interesting node lock showing that BTN will call all bluffcatchers when you add in a few extra combos of bluffs with K high hands. I would imagine this kind of exploit is pretty common, given that BB is supposed to check river often with stronger A high and K high hands in SRPs BB vs late positions?
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1:05 why do you prefer a larger sizing on a less connected board? On more connected boards I would think there is less of an eq advantage and more range symmetry so we would go bigger and more polar.
Thanks!
Because on the less connected boards your flop nuts (or very strong hands) will hold their equity on more runouts than in a more connected flop, so you are more comfortable putting more money into the pot since the flop.
While on more connected boards, you want to look for a "safe" turn to start putting in more money with your very strong hands
Interesting question SoundSpeed . I did a little research of my own on this as I remember some of SB vs BTN 3bet pots preferring bigger sizing on 2-tone boards and smaller on rainbow boards (e.g. Ace-Broadway-X boards). Having looked at GTOWizard aggregate reports, and my own aggregate reports, it seems that for the spot in the video (BTN vs CO 3bet pot), Max is right that BTN bets bigger more often on rainbow boards than 2-tone boards. For the SB vs BTN 3bet pot, the larger size gets around 40% of the betting volume (on GTOWizard) regardless of whether the board is rainbow or two-tone. I think it's mainly a product of being out of position causing the 3bettor to want to shovel in money on earlier streets with big pairs on boards that 1 pair is good for stacks if the money goes in soon enough. When IP, the 3bettor gets more options for pot control based on turn/river whereas when OOP the 3bettor doesn't have that luxury so more frequently looks to push it's 1 pair advantage on earlier streets.
My own strategy for 3bet pots SB vs BTN is based on sims with just 1 flop cbet sizing - either 25%, 50% or 75%. I ran all the boards then selected just one cbet sizing for each board based on which had the highest EV. When constructing a strategy in this way, the effect is more extreme, with a bigger preference for the bigger cbet sizing strategy on two-tone boards:
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Excellent posts matlittle! Thank you for that information. It males a lot of sense that ip you can pot control and esentially play for safer turns. That is not something I have included in my heuristics for choosing bet sizing. I tend to over simplify and use more or less the same sizing whether ip or oop but make adjustments for board texture, range assymetry and stack sizes (I play a fair bit of tournies).
1.52 villain folding 77 66 etc pre at some frequency isnt that too tight or is that due to high rake?
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Very interesting node lock showing that BTN will call all bluffcatchers when you add in a few extra combos of bluffs with K high hands. I would imagine this kind of exploit is pretty common, given that BB is supposed to check river often with stronger A high and K high hands in SRPs BB vs late positions?
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