@ 3:45 See, this is where I start having trouble understanding material currently: When it comes to hearing someone say "they should be polarizing a lot"...as if it's an optional approach one takes. I thought you either are or aren't polarized due to the board runout and your hand. I've heard "we're polarized here" many times and you mention construction of a polarized range here, as well. How can we construct ranges for spots that haven't occurred yet? What am I misunderstanding?
@ 7:45 These are the kind of bluffs I'm starting to make at 20nl and 25nl. I'm still hesitant to overbet bluff like this (admittedly) but I never used to bluff lol. I bluff quite a bit now and my success rate is pretty high. I just need to start incorporating B100+ into my arsenal in the spots where I intuitively feel like I should pull the trigger. I've made some like 65-85% river bluffs and got looked up by middle pair and I knew immediately that if I had just bet pot or greater he would have folded. So, seeing guys like you here on RIO make larger bluffs that don't always go through is extremely helpful for someone like me and almost allows me to give myself permission to fail and lose money sometimes.
@ 9:40 These nodes are terribly overcalled by villain holding pocket pairs. I like how you expand upon the fact that 4x simply has more ways to improve and more equity.
@ 13:15 I love how you point out why a hand like A2s has such a high blocker effect when the 2d comes down on the turn. Extremely interesting concept.
@ 33:50 That is a very nice thing about the ace of clubs. I've always had a difficult time wrapping my head around blockers and unblockers but I'm starting to understand them more and it's definitely changing the way I see the game.
@ 36:00 Not too deep at all. This kind of analysis is available to us today via technology and necessary due to it's prevalence.
As you wrap things up: I see people write things like "I play GTO style" or "I recently switched to GTO" quite a bit. Of course, GTO is the foundation...the backbone of our game. When villain deviates and becomes exploitable, we deviate to exploit him but in turn, then become exploitable ourselves. Pretty cool game if you ask me.
Hi, first of all thank you for the comment and the feedbacks :)
Let's go:
@ 3:45 It is an optional approach indeed - for example, on an AK5 board on a BTNvsBB situation you can either construct a polarize c-betting range (in which you bet only your top hands + bluffs), and to do so you should use a very large size. Or you can construct a linear range and bet a lot of more midling strenght hands (as Kx for ex) using a smaller sizing, and betting more often
@ 7:45 Nice!! Yes, if you recognize someone has a very midling strenght type of range you should go for the overbet, both with your bluffs and value hands
@ 9:40 Nice!
@ 13:15 Cool!
@ 33:50 The main advice I would give you would be: Don't try to think too much about it, let the concept sink into your mind little by little, in the future you'll be able to utilize the blockers concepts way better
@ 36:00 Good to read that, thank you!
Completely agree, GTO is the ground, but we should deviate when we are incentivized to do so. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Great review vid. I pefer the deeper dives into the solver and exploring other lines.
16:00 it seems like bluffing 4x wouldn't be great as we block his fold range.
36:00 we prefer to have a club as a good gto opponent won't be bluffing with clubs. Do you think the reverse is true though when looking at population tendencies at 50nl and they tend to bluff too much with a busted fd?
We don't range bet because villain has an advantage on the trips region.
I'll cover that and the range construction on a future video on how to c-bet in SRP IP as PFR, it's already recorded, it will be part of a series that I named "How To C-bet"
ModernGrinder already made great questions that helped me after watching the video (thank you). Nevertheless, I tried to put in some "rules". Can you please check it?
Hand 1:
- Flop Turn Strategy: When the board presents 2 high cards and 2 low cards that don't align with the high cards, it's a favorable situation for implementing an overbet on the turn after making a cbet on the flop.
- Range Cap on Turn: If our opponent cbets the flop but checks on the turn, it strongly indicates that their range is capped. Recognizing this, it becomes essential to apply pressure with an overbet on the river to exploit their capped range.
Hand 2:
- Flop C-Bet Sizing: On low paired flops, we must cbet less often but in a bigger size. Players tend to make cbets as usual (small size). In contrast, high paired flops typically invite cbets in the range of 25-33%.
- Check-Raise Range: When dealing with low-paired boards, it's beneficial to think about the xr range. Many players tend to over cbet on these boards, causing their range to be wider than it should be. Exploiting this wider range with our xr strategy can be profitable.
- Paired Boards and Sizing: On paired boards, especially low paired ones, it's often advisable to use smaller bet sizes. This approach aims to complicate our opponent's defense strategy and avoid isolating ourselves to better hands, as over-betting could lead to folds from weaker holdings.
- Impact of Our Hand on Bluff Range: We need to consider how our specific hand influences the opponent's bluff range. Your Ac example was great!
- Relevance of Blockers: Blockers hold significance throughout the hand. It's essential to reevaluate the blockers on each street. Blockers impact our decisions and strategies, particularly when considering an opponent's potential hands and range.
Interesting analysis in the first hand whereby you correctly point out that most players will be capped on the flush/straight completing river. In this example you chose to overbet - is that simply because the river completed draws (which you think will be too under-represented in villains range), or do you use the overbet to bluff most river types including bricks too given that players presumably don't check back enough middling/strong hands to call brick rivers too?
Great video Max! I love the format of thinking through the hands and approximating the thresholds before getting into the solver - great for the video and also something I'm going to take away for my own study. Thanks!
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@ 3:45 See, this is where I start having trouble understanding material currently: When it comes to hearing someone say "they should be polarizing a lot"...as if it's an optional approach one takes. I thought you either are or aren't polarized due to the board runout and your hand. I've heard "we're polarized here" many times and you mention construction of a polarized range here, as well. How can we construct ranges for spots that haven't occurred yet? What am I misunderstanding?
@ 7:45 These are the kind of bluffs I'm starting to make at 20nl and 25nl. I'm still hesitant to overbet bluff like this (admittedly) but I never used to bluff lol. I bluff quite a bit now and my success rate is pretty high. I just need to start incorporating B100+ into my arsenal in the spots where I intuitively feel like I should pull the trigger. I've made some like 65-85% river bluffs and got looked up by middle pair and I knew immediately that if I had just bet pot or greater he would have folded. So, seeing guys like you here on RIO make larger bluffs that don't always go through is extremely helpful for someone like me and almost allows me to give myself permission to fail and lose money sometimes.
@ 9:40 These nodes are terribly overcalled by villain holding pocket pairs. I like how you expand upon the fact that 4x simply has more ways to improve and more equity.
@ 13:15 I love how you point out why a hand like A2s has such a high blocker effect when the 2d comes down on the turn. Extremely interesting concept.
@ 33:50 That is a very nice thing about the ace of clubs. I've always had a difficult time wrapping my head around blockers and unblockers but I'm starting to understand them more and it's definitely changing the way I see the game.
@ 36:00 Not too deep at all. This kind of analysis is available to us today via technology and necessary due to it's prevalence.
As you wrap things up: I see people write things like "I play GTO style" or "I recently switched to GTO" quite a bit. Of course, GTO is the foundation...the backbone of our game. When villain deviates and becomes exploitable, we deviate to exploit him but in turn, then become exploitable ourselves. Pretty cool game if you ask me.
Hi, first of all thank you for the comment and the feedbacks :)
Let's go:
@ 3:45 It is an optional approach indeed - for example, on an AK5 board on a BTNvsBB situation you can either construct a polarize c-betting range (in which you bet only your top hands + bluffs), and to do so you should use a very large size. Or you can construct a linear range and bet a lot of more midling strenght hands (as Kx for ex) using a smaller sizing, and betting more often
@ 7:45 Nice!! Yes, if you recognize someone has a very midling strenght type of range you should go for the overbet, both with your bluffs and value hands
@ 9:40 Nice!
@ 13:15 Cool!
@ 33:50 The main advice I would give you would be: Don't try to think too much about it, let the concept sink into your mind little by little, in the future you'll be able to utilize the blockers concepts way better
@ 36:00 Good to read that, thank you!
Completely agree, GTO is the ground, but we should deviate when we are incentivized to do so. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Great video Max. I'm looking forward to the next one.
Thanks bro!!
Great review vid. I pefer the deeper dives into the solver and exploring other lines.
16:00 it seems like bluffing 4x wouldn't be great as we block his fold range.
36:00 we prefer to have a club as a good gto opponent won't be bluffing with clubs. Do you think the reverse is true though when looking at population tendencies at 50nl and they tend to bluff too much with a busted fd?
Thanks!
Thank you! I'll continue to go deeper with my solver analysis then :)
16:00 - Yeah, it block folds but also blocks value (44 and some 2 pairs), he has very few 4x, therefore I think blocking value becomes more important
36:00 - I believe 50nl regs are competent enough to give up more often with the AX missed flushdraws
Hey Max,
On 663r and other low paired flops, is it because we don't have the trips advantage that we shouldn't range bet as the IP PFR?
and
how should I go about constructing my betting and checking range OTF as the IP PFR?
We don't range bet because villain has an advantage on the trips region.
I'll cover that and the range construction on a future video on how to c-bet in SRP IP as PFR, it's already recorded, it will be part of a series that I named "How To C-bet"
Thank you for the comment :)
looking forward to it
Max Lacerda, what a great video and content!
Looking forward to the following hands!
ModernGrinder already made great questions that helped me after watching the video (thank you). Nevertheless, I tried to put in some "rules". Can you please check it?
Hand 1:
- Flop Turn Strategy: When the board presents 2 high cards and 2 low cards that don't align with the high cards, it's a favorable situation for implementing an overbet on the turn after making a cbet on the flop.
- Range Cap on Turn: If our opponent cbets the flop but checks on the turn, it strongly indicates that their range is capped. Recognizing this, it becomes essential to apply pressure with an overbet on the river to exploit their capped range.
Hand 2:
- Flop C-Bet Sizing: On low paired flops, we must cbet less often but in a bigger size. Players tend to make cbets as usual (small size). In contrast, high paired flops typically invite cbets in the range of 25-33%.
- Check-Raise Range: When dealing with low-paired boards, it's beneficial to think about the xr range. Many players tend to over cbet on these boards, causing their range to be wider than it should be. Exploiting this wider range with our xr strategy can be profitable.
- Paired Boards and Sizing: On paired boards, especially low paired ones, it's often advisable to use smaller bet sizes. This approach aims to complicate our opponent's defense strategy and avoid isolating ourselves to better hands, as over-betting could lead to folds from weaker holdings.
- Impact of Our Hand on Bluff Range: We need to consider how our specific hand influences the opponent's bluff range. Your Ac example was great!
- Relevance of Blockers: Blockers hold significance throughout the hand. It's essential to reevaluate the blockers on each street. Blockers impact our decisions and strategies, particularly when considering an opponent's potential hands and range.
Awesome comment!! That's the best way to watch a training video, congrats for that!
Interesting analysis in the first hand whereby you correctly point out that most players will be capped on the flush/straight completing river. In this example you chose to overbet - is that simply because the river completed draws (which you think will be too under-represented in villains range), or do you use the overbet to bluff most river types including bricks too given that players presumably don't check back enough middling/strong hands to call brick rivers too?
I'd overbet on most cards, the overfold happens across all different runouts.
I enjoyed the depth of analysis a lot, I learn a lot more this way than by doing more hands in less depth!
Awesome! I'll do more of those then :)
Ty for the feedback!
Great video Max! I love the format of thinking through the hands and approximating the thresholds before getting into the solver - great for the video and also something I'm going to take away for my own study. Thanks!
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