Thank you! Really like how you give your thought process. Comparing to ICM situations and how you think the field plays is also great that you highlight.
27:30 these spots where we raise broadways whether chip ev or icm, confuse me. I always float but never raise because I feel the overcards have good value in and of themselves. If we raise, pocket pairs are never folding so we have to barrel off. If we raise good ax, we only get worse ax to fold. I guess raising kx can get ax to fold but that is it. Raising just seems high variance.
42:37 kinda similar concept. What benefit is there to raising aq, aj etc...
regarding spots like in 27:30: It's funny i kind of feel a bit relieved intuitively, that we get to raise such hands sometimes, as i feel like I would be so vulnerable on future streets if i just passively continue too much with my non paired overcards. That would be my personal/intuitive reason for why i like raising occasionally.
Now looking at this scenario in GTO Wizard: we fold out some (not all, but decent chunk) of his AKo combos, then on the other hand he has to continue a high % of the time generally with his overcards with backdoors, even by raising occasionally. Probably not gonna happen often in reality, the raises at least not.
Folding out two random overcards that are live vs our hand is not too bad of a result either, lastly we always have overcards vs his lower pairs but that argument applies for flatcalling too of course.
So this is what i just see at glancing at his response vs our raise, I still think my initial argument is one big reason for why we sometimes raise. We cant make our whole range to vulnerable, otherwise we can be barrelled off too frequently on future streets.
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Thank you! Really like how you give your thought process. Comparing to ICM situations and how you think the field plays is also great that you highlight.
Appreciated the chip ev to icm comparisons.
27:30 these spots where we raise broadways whether chip ev or icm, confuse me. I always float but never raise because I feel the overcards have good value in and of themselves. If we raise, pocket pairs are never folding so we have to barrel off. If we raise good ax, we only get worse ax to fold. I guess raising kx can get ax to fold but that is it. Raising just seems high variance.
42:37 kinda similar concept. What benefit is there to raising aq, aj etc...
Thanks!
Hi Soundspeed,
regarding spots like in 27:30: It's funny i kind of feel a bit relieved intuitively, that we get to raise such hands sometimes, as i feel like I would be so vulnerable on future streets if i just passively continue too much with my non paired overcards. That would be my personal/intuitive reason for why i like raising occasionally.
Now looking at this scenario in GTO Wizard: we fold out some (not all, but decent chunk) of his AKo combos, then on the other hand he has to continue a high % of the time generally with his overcards with backdoors, even by raising occasionally. Probably not gonna happen often in reality, the raises at least not.
Folding out two random overcards that are live vs our hand is not too bad of a result either, lastly we always have overcards vs his lower pairs but that argument applies for flatcalling too of course.
So this is what i just see at glancing at his response vs our raise, I still think my initial argument is one big reason for why we sometimes raise. We cant make our whole range to vulnerable, otherwise we can be barrelled off too frequently on future streets.
hey Mathias - loved the pace of your drilling. Thanks for the vid :)
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