156 VPIP'd Hands: GTO Approved or Not?

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156 VPIP'd Hands: GTO Approved or Not?

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EluSiVeMark

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RunItTw1ce 11 months ago

8:30 JTo BB facing a 3bb CO open, you mentioned you would fold. What is the bottom of your continue range? Folding JTo QTo? Calling KTo QJo?

10:30 KQo btn vs BB 3bet mention KQo performs poorly vs the tighter 3bet range. How are you defending vs smaller 3bets like 9bb even though the range is tighter? Should we treat this spot as like Co vs BB? Where AJo KQo will fold in the CO?

13bb vs 11bb 3bet CO vs BB where BB is 3 betting around 10% instead of the 14% frequency you saw on the BTN vs BB. Less about the position and more about the range that 3bets you. What range are you continuing with on the button here vs smaller 3bet with a tight 3bet range.

I still find myself struggling in these spots in live cash vs small 3bets because of pot odds. I am hardly making a hand post flop and the marginal hands I do make I end up getting milked vs QQ+

EluSiVeMark 11 months ago

8:30: Bottom offsuit hands would be around QJo indeed. And suited hands we obviously call or 3b at a pretty high frequency.

10:30 Also weighted around suited hands. Vs tight ranges and small sizes i would call AQ as the bottom. Unless villain is weak postflop, then ill expand my range.

In live games people tend to 3bet even less, so the right adjustment is to open wider and fold more vs 3bets. You wont find any help in GTO ranges because they are far from GTO ranges.
Knowing u exploit them while actually making a fold that should not be 1 in theory should give u some satisfaction.

RunItTw1ce 11 months ago

20:30 with A9o Bvb on Q62hh-9-Q board you mentioned standard call in theory but you are not so sure in practice. Isn't 9X very high in your range since you are going to bet turn quite often with QX? You'll still have some Q8s-Q2s but pretty capped to JJ TT 9X region I think. Are you considering where you are at in your range or just focused on whether or not the other player bets worse with their range?

EluSiVeMark 11 months ago

well, my 'worst' calls usually come from this thinking: I am high up in my range and if i do not call here i will be exploited.
Instead i like to look more at potodds, and the likelihood of someone actually bluffing.
What are the positions? Wide or tight formation?
Is villain capable of bluffing?
WWSF%
What is he repping?
What am i repping with my line?
Natural bluffs available?
and some more questions

RunItTw1ce 11 months ago

45min can you explain how gto wizard uses this vertical hand range chart? I don't understand all the up and down bar graphs for each hand.

RunItTw1ce 11 months ago

Will await part 2 & 3. I like the format. My only complaint is this horizontal hand chart. Makes wizard look messy IMO. But maybe because I don't understand it very well. I'm guessing its just based on suits? But rather have a more normal look to these charts.

postwar18 11 months ago

9:00: I don't like the bluff; I think the sizing is good, but I disagree with the combo. I think you're right that villian, wether recreational or not, doesn't check back enough Kx on the flop. Most people, myself included, don't usually play the polarized strategy on this board espoused by solver; but even if villian uses a small flop stab--as opposed to a more optimal large C-bet size--he still is expecting to check back a decent amount of Kx on the flop. This means your river overbet is correct. Were IP to have any amount of Kx on the river, a smaller size would be more appropriate. Given that he likely doesn't, your overbet does a good job of targeting his Qx. Still, one has to assume that recreational or not, JJ and TT have to be two of his most common flop check backs into turn calls and river folds facing your line. JT blocks these folds to an inordinate extent. Therefore, I think that even low diamonds, 6d4d, for example, would be better bluffs unblocking JJ,TT.

postwar18 11 months ago

19:55: Gets really interesting to start check-raising this hand, A9, if IP overfolds to large turn x/r size. In situations in which opponent pure folds hands like QJ (as opposed to mix-fold), you can even, it seems, x/r hands beyond A9, like Q3, targeting better Qx to fold on the turn. On the river, you could then pure check assuming IP, in addition to folding too much Qx on the turn, will call a disproportionate number of missed draws: this makes it easy for him to over-bluff the river, especially if he doesn't have a tight grasp on his value thresholds.

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