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Turn Play after High C Bet %

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POSTED Jan 30, 2021

Mark Lammers aka ElusiveMark utilizes real hands from his database to examine how to play turns where the flop contains a high C bet % based on the ranges of both players.

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Carambalage 4 years, 2 months ago

Just wanted to send some love your way. This spot based analysis focusing on full range vs range and the agg reports work is what makes your content stand out to me and is where the meat and potatoes improvement is made. If you're looking for content ideas, would love to see you testing out what's been learnt after these concept vids playing vs GTO trainer. Once again, great vid!

ctrlplay 4 years, 2 months ago

18: AQTr I ran a sim for this spot. Caveat I use different ranges so there are going to be slight differences.

On the rainbow turn 7, villain has to overfold and also has less of a raising range, but to compensate calls more QJ and KT. On the river we have to give up some of the time with our Kxs because villain's range is quite a bit stronger than on the missed flush draw board. This seems to be mostly from the differences to the rainbow board river because there are no draws to fold out except KT. Another noticeable difference is that weak Jx bluffs much more on the rainbow turn than the bdfd turn because it'll get more folds so they become the preferred river bluff, contributing to Kxs giving up more.

All that said, if villain overfolds Qx on the turn I'm sure overbluffing river is a fine play. They actually get to have a small donking range on the river which allows them to mix folds to a jam, probably saving some chips and allow them to win the pot sometimes when bluffs mix jamming and folding.

BD club draw missed board for comparison, this looks like the missed flushdraw board.

RunItTw1ce 4 years, 2 months ago

Not sure why Elusivemark's sim is not jamming more QX on the river. I didn't think so many QX take this line with overbet turn. River looks bluffy

shadyoc5 4 years, 2 months ago

Great video. Off the top of your head do you know what the spr threshold pio, or you personally, likes to jam vs 150%, 2x, 2.5x pot? Of course it also depends on how favorable or unfavorable the runout is, but sometimes in SRP it just seems awkward ripping 3x or 4x pot on the river and it seems that a smaller overbet is equally effective. Any experience with this?

ctom_20 1 year, 1 month ago

Any chance you can elaborate on why we don't bluff any Tx or Jx straight blocker on K92AQ (33:53), but on AQT7Q (18:41) - we bluff every Kx and Jx?

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