Yes I'm keen to know this too. I 3bet linear vs recs, with strong hands only, but I can never work out the borderline for which hands are strong enough to 3bet, so I end up with a low 3bet percentage. Could you give some of the threshold hands here for which you would 3bet vs a rec?

Hey Luke great job!

Thank you MazeFranco

30:20 when said that you don’t like 53s 3bet BB vs CO mainly because unknown/bad regs doesn’t fold enough to 3bets, would you keep your frequencies but 3bet more linear like SB 3bet ranges or you would reduce your frequencies to only the stronger hands?

Good question. It depends how weak they are, and their stack depth. Vs weaker shortstackers I am ceratinly not going to 3b hands like 54s, instead I'll call and try to take a cheaper flop. However at 200bb eff I'll opt to do so due to the hopefully increased implied equity.

So as to your question specifically, I'd only deliberately distort my range from polar to linear when shortstacked. Deeper stacked, I'd still stay polar.

Yes I'm keen to know this too. I 3bet linear vs recs, with strong hands only, but I can never work out the borderline for which hands are strong enough to 3bet, so I end up with a low 3bet percentage. Could you give some of the threshold hands here for which you would 3bet vs a rec?

matlittle In this instance I'd go more linear. So no K9s, but KQo. No A7s, but AJo.

Its also worth mentioning that if BB turns out to be a fish rather than fishreg, you should not even consider folding. Recreational players will over-bluff this line by a MASSIVE amount. I did some research on this exact line and the results were pretty mind blowing.

Custom Ai Wizard link for exact bet size, pot size, and stack sizes in game. I never thought BvB would ever fold a flush, but only mandatory call AXs KXs+

Also Luke Johnson Idk the exact time stamp for this hand, but you mentioned wizard was calling J6s and your sim was 3 betting at some frequency, so you went with your PIO sim. In this custom Ai sim, wizard is 3 betting J6s on the flop about 30% of the time.

One last note JTo was close to a pure check back on the turn for this custom Ai, but J9o is barreling off, so it can't be too bad.

SB Cb 28% (1.21)
BB raises 111% (8.7)
SB calls.
Turn
BB cb 70% (15.33)
SB XC.
River
BB shoves 141% (73.72)
SB calls. 0EV.

One last note JTo was close to a pure check back on the turn for this custom Ai, but J9o is barreling off, so it can't be too bad.

Interesting that the J9 bets and the JT checks here. I guess the JT folds more equity if it gets raised, plus it blocks more of the folding hands from SB like AT, JT, TT

This hand was pretty interesting. You were surprised that BB didn't get to range bet the turn after raising the flop. In my sim, SB actually has a small donking frequency here (although we have different preflop ranges of course). I think that the big raise size causes BB to be flush-draw heavy in its bluffs, but also makes SB call mainly the stronger draws too, so that the spade turn brings a lot of flushes for SB too. SB also didn't have to defend flop especially light given the big raise size too. So on the turn BOTH players should have pretty strong ranges here, with both having similar amounts of flushes.

Hey matlittle SB donks make a lot of sense, but for a micro sizing, like 15% or smaller.

There is a world where SB donks often, and after missing it, BB still cbets extremely aggressively re. freq, not necessarily sizing.

Its also worth mentioning that if BB turns out to be a fish rather than fishreg, you should not even consider folding. Recreational players will over-bluff this line by a MASSIVE amount. I did some research on this exact line and the results were pretty mind blowing.

matlittle interesting MDA note, ty

Interesting that the J9 bets and the JT checks here. I guess the JT folds more equity if it gets raised, plus it blocks more of the folding hands from SB like AT, JT, TT

Mainly, JT will negatively block more XF's from OOP OTT, relative to the J9 which has the 9x unblocker

RunItTw1ce

Thanks for the research. Yeah, flushes are going to be not great hands vs this line. We effectively have a bluffcatcher...

Another mergey play the solver made was with the 33 in your hand on the A82, it was almost pure overbetting turn, expecting BB to fold some top pair, all naked pairs worse than top pair, whilst calling some hands the 33 beats like KX flush draws. Do you think that 33 is better in reality as a check due to BB likely over-calling (e.g. QX, 8X)?

Ahi+x2 fd = quite a linear and connected board = lots of easy 'blue' (folds) for the BB. This is accentuated when we use a large cbet turn sizing, making the defence even more natural-feeling for BB

Thank you 777TripSevens777

Oh yea, the disconnected element was pretty sick lol. Bad beat to villain if he ever watches it back, hahaha

Thank you TRUEPOWER as always :)

but low busted flush draws block less of opponents range especially in 3bet pots so we tend to bluff them a fair bit. Does that seem right?

Yep, that seems right. In this spot, however, we aren't in a 3BP. So the low busted fd's will also block a lot of IP's folding range.