Thank you JoeAdams1

You might like my upcoming video even more then :)

Completely agree, I think its a bit of a disservice to the elite members when some coaches put out a theory video that took them 1hr to create. There is a lot of time and effort that goes into a video like this and it is very appreciated. Kudos Luke

This is really awesome to hear guys. Thank you so much. It might sound a bit cliche, but reading your very positive feedbacks are a real treat!

I'm working on my upcoming video. If you guys liked this, I hope you will enjoy the next even more :)

Hi RaiNHaZE

I ran scripts to have all the boards. No shortcuts I'm afraid.

I've jumped off into a micro donk deep dive for all flops. Solver loves using this sizing in SRP very very often. Like a lot. Even when controlling for larger IP raise sizings. On boards most wouldn't think like K723. Lots of blank turn donks. Even when IP bets large on flop. Is this because OP range so condensed while IP has more air? It completely changes sim since when OP checks (if playing micro donk strategy), IP doesn't overbet nearly as much which is another odd conclusion. Do you implement this into your game on this widespread basis or on just more obvious spots like the hand in this video?

Seed2Shade Appreciate the compliments and that you are enjoying. I hope I can continue to deliver!

I had you confused on what you meant by the micro donk at first. I thought you were calling yourself a donk in the micro's who was doing a deep dive, which made me smile.

Anyhow, the "micro donk" is afaik a play that solvers choose when either the turn pairs, most preferably the 2nd or 3rd card, or when IP sizes up the flop, for two main reasons;
- OOP tends to make more trips
- Both IP's and OOP's nothing hands (air) fail to pick up any EV. However, OOP has far less of these hands, most especially when IP sizes up, meaning IP hemorrhages away significantly more ev

It's not a play you have to do. I certainly don't do it as often as is optimal. However, there are often situations where you can range donk for the micro size — they are the situations I try to take advantage of.

Haha, just referring to the 10% donk sizing. I'm more a low stakes donk :)

I get that. I'm saying this small donk sizing on the turn is prevalent even in non-paired situations and many more than one would think. For instance, look up Ks7d2c3c. Solver chooses the micro donk 50% of range post a block on flop from IP. I went off and tried many others boards and it is used very often. I have IP with many raise sizings too. It's odd. I guess OP is just so condensed while IP has much more air and OP doesn't get punished from IP nut advantage since its such a small lead. Idk.

Be careful with your sim's configurations. This behavior (wide donk range on blank turn) usually happens when you don't give IP a big raise option (or maybe even no raising option at all). When OOP checks, he usually faces a huge overbet barrel (1.5-2x pot) on blank turn, so if he can cheat by min donk and only get raised 50% pot, it would be cheaper, his marginal hands and marginal draws will now have a lot of incentive to just min donk.

I did give large raise sizing. This was a while ago so don't fully remember but I think I made it equilivant to 133% cbet sizing if checked too.

joomorrow

Your points are good, but they are still probably more of a thing than you think; even if you allow IP a big raise and cbet size, donking becomes quite good when vs EP after calling big flop cbets, due to how condensed our range is.

With that being said, I do not personally take advantage of it. Yet ;)

Demondoink Appreciate the honest feedback! Thank you for taking the time to address everything as you have.

Less depth in T9o:
Good point. Perhaps that isn't down to the format as much as my lack of awareness to think more about the range when relaying information to viewers. With more practise, I can try to learn how to relay the hand in question, as well as the range, in a time effective manner to the viewers in the same format. After all, when I am doing the studying in my downtime, I am not only looking at the hand.

3-4 hands in depth:
Agreed. These videos are not ones I've decided not to do. Instead, I'm trying to mix up the formats, to see what works and what doesn't. I will definitely do more deep dives in the very near future, as they were received well, and got the best ratings out of all my videos so far.

Square size:
Lol, yeah I'm sorry. I cannot tell you the amount of times I've been in a coaching session and asked to tick it. Will do my best to remember for next time.

Again, thank you for the honest feedback. It's appreciated! Hopefully you will see some changes in future videos.

Cheers Demondoink see you at the tables ;)

Thank you <3 thejericho2

Thank you guth888 :)

All flop subset (1755)

Luke Johnson jeez, that's a lot of flops haha. i guess you rented a server?

Hi! SoundSpeed

Glad you enjoyed :)

23:30:
Yes, but proceeding with caution

37:20:
I don't understand your reference here

44:50:
The weaker ones are more expensive checks, as they relinquish more equity to IP via checking — the stronger a draw, the less phased it is by seeing future streets.

Cheers!

Sorry about that Luke Johnson, i got the time stamp wrong. It was the bluff at 38:20. Do you make that bet with no flush blocker? Thanks.

37:20:
No, we are mixing and mostly giving up. Good catch, as I thought we were bluffing all before I went back to check!

Yes, I like this format as well! I agree with you entirely.

My two upcoming videos are similar to this, so I hope that you will enjoy them, too!

Hi RunItTw1ce

Firstly, apologies for the ranges seeming out of whack. In truth they aren't, but it will look that way without the square size being ticked. This is something I'm used to with my own sims, but I can totally appreciate how it can be misleading in videos.

MP vs BB on A642T board where BB XR flop - pots turn - gives up river. I noticed because BB has so many bluffs that give up on the river after narrowing the ranges that a lot of 2 pairs have to be checked as well to protect his checking range. I think on low stakes what they do is XR-B-B with all their strong hands and leave their checking range capped on the river with give ups which is why you see BB folding 82% vs 1/3 block bet on this river. It's even higher on lower stakes with a capped range.

Yep, correct

32:40 with Qh4h on Js-4d-Th-Td-Ad run out. Nuno had a good video on this spot, it was quite some time ago though, maybe 10 videos of his back or more, but you can see my comments on it. Nuno was talking about unblocking the the JX region and straight draws regions that XC XC fold or call XR - call - fold. I thought the Q was good because it blocks the main straight draw that came in KQ, but found out it's actually the opposite as you pointed out you are not really concerned about blocking the nuts, but want to unblock the call two streets and fold river range as you said Q9 Q8 98 etc.

Can you provide me with the link to the video, please?

3.1) I would also point out with the 4d on the flop and with TP and bottom pair doing more XR than middle pairs, when back door diamonds come in the 4d on the flop blocks a lot of your bdfd that got there. Where if board was Jd -4s - Th -Td -Ad now you can have the 5d4d type hands that improve to the back door flush. Of course you can still have hands like Q8d or 97d etc. But also know when board is Spade - heart - diamond that spades and hearts for back door flush are going to be high frequency than diamonds. I actually learned this in one of your first videos. Bluff with backdoor to to the top pair first, then 2nd pair next, and bottom pair is the last suite you want to XR our of the 3 suites.

This is a really great nugget. Thanks (Y)

Your videos are very informative as usual. Thank you! Please correct any thought process that is incorrect above. I know BB defense can be wider than how I play, just haven't seen any solves as wide as your PIO shows.

Glad you are finding them very informative as always.

No errors in thought process. My only 2c:

I think on low stakes what they do is XR-B-B with all their strong hands and leave their checking range capped on the river with give ups which is why you see BB folding 82% vs 1/3 block bet on this river

It's important we take note that the correct play in theory is to cap our checking range and overXF. Even if they overdo it at "low stakes", they are still on the right track. The reason I mention this is because it's really easy to fall victim to our own narrative, instead of staying objective about the spot, which is that overXF is GTO.

Cheers RunItTw1ce

Can you provide me with the link to the video, please?

Nuno's unorthodox River Spots

But also know when board is Spade - heart - diamond that spades and hearts for back door flush are going to be high frequency than diamonds.

What do you mean by this? The % run out of spades or hearts or diamonds will be the same no?

Bluff with backdoor to to the top pair first, then 2nd pair next, and bottom pair is the last suite you want to XR our of the 3 suites.

Why is that? Shouldn't we want to bluff with the same suits as bottom card, so that when we do hit our bdfd, villain will think we have less flushes and pay off more often?

joomorrow One of Luke's first videos explains this. But as a quick example on an Ac-9d-3s board as stated above I would bet clubs first, then diamonds second. The Ace of clubs on the flop makes it less likely you get coolered when flush comes in if you float a hand like Kc5c. Because now you are drawing to the nuts. Or even a hand like Jc7c because you are drawing to 3rd nuts. Where if you float a hand like Js7s now opponent has all the AsXs KsXs and QsXs so you are moving a few combos from their range that can potentially cooler you.

RunItTw1ce Beautiful concept. Even the EV of betting/raising/calling clubs is higher than diamonds. Thanks for sharing.

RunItTw1ce ah, I thought you were talking about the "blocking bottom pair + bdfd XR" concept. I do remember seeing that in Luke's first video, but I'm not sure if it's a universal heuristics. There are way too many exceptions that are hard to understand.

E.g. on your example of Ac9d3s SRP BB vs BU with gtowizard NL500-Basic ranges (I saw that you used gtowizard too):
- BU will indeed cbet clubs hands more often, but followed by spades, not diamonds.
- The same for BB: he will vpip K5cc Q8cc types of hands most often, but followed by spades, not diamonds.
- For certain hands such as 86s, now BB prefer to vpip 86dd followed by 86cc then 86ss. Probably because now we will be coolered by not only Axss but also 9xss.

I think I will just simplify it into: on clubs-diamonds-spades
- Prefer clubs over other suits, but indifferent to diamonds or spades
- If our hand < mid card, then now prefer clubs/diamonds over spades
But need to test the hypothesis on many different spots to be sure.

Same as per my earlier reply above: this is my bad for not ticking square size proportional. See below:

Unticked

Ticked

Feel free to reference against 41:06 in the video. As you can see, the ranges are accurate, and TT pure mucks vs 1/3 w/o BDFD. Will try and mind my square size better in future videos!

Cheers RunItTw1ce

I think your square size if I am understanding that term correctly are fine. Better to be larger to easily see the frequency. Then as you are making an Elite video, I should have a better understanding of how wide ranges are at higher stakes with less rake and generally smaller open sizes. I have been using wizard for a few months now which is based on 500NL ranges or at least are supposed to be against 2.5x RFI sizing and ranges are much more narrow. I understand the defending range you chose having a lot of robust equity with the connectors even though they are off suite. My view was probably projected as a narrow view point based on my own ranges.

Cheers.

Hi Doublou,

Sorry, that is due to me not ticking sq size proportional. The loose hands are in there 0.0001% respectively

Haha. Yes it won't, but I can see how it may have been misleading. Sorry about that Doblou07 !

Hey Pinzo please excuse my late reply, I have only just saw this comment!

36:37 if we have AK/AQhh we defend his stab, what do we do on blanks river?

I'd imagine AK would just have to call, and I'd fold AQ.

44:39 if he called turn, what do we do on blanks river?

1. Cross fingers
2. Shove.

50:13 if he called turn, do we bet river only if flush gets there?

I would imagine we get to continue on some 9/T/A rivers, too

Hey luke great video here

TRUEPOWER Ty :)

42:00 79h heart hand
On the flop if theres two hearts on the flop 268 if theres two hearts can we go for a check raise? I understand wirh the rainbow board were purely check calling! Going for it on the turn lol

I'm sure check raise would be fine, but perhaps counterintuitively, we'll typically want to use our WEAKEST draws first to fast play via flop bet/xr on this texture. So 97combo draw w/ overcard typically will want to be slowplayed often relative to its immediate ev. Feel free to run this in the solver for yourself, it's an interesting /powerful prospect worth learning