Solving $5K NL: Even the Best Make Mistakes
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liked it very much!
Hi Pressaa glad to hear that, thank you for the feedback!
yeah i def prefer this style, i find these more entertaining man than the liveplay
JoeAdams1
Good to know Joe! More to come :)
Great job Luke! You are adding lots of EV to RIO membership :)
Glad to hear Lono ! Hopefully you are finding your subscription worthwhile :)
More videos to come (Y)
Luke I like every video you make, I don't find this kind boring at all!
14:31 on which river do we bet?
34:22 on which river do we shove? I guess hearts? What about blanks?
39:40 if we raised J8 do we fold to a shove?
51:00 I was thinking we could call also with T6/T7 blocking his double gutter that got there on the river, even more than AT/KT, because I don't think he would take this line with something we beat with AT but not with T7/T6, what do you think?
Thanks for the videos you provide man, enjoy the holidays!
Hi Pinzo
Awesome! I'm always a little worried about my videos being a little "heavy" and therefore less enjoyable. Glad to hear this is not the case!
I would imagine many rivers. I tend to think about Poker street by street, meaning I don't have a plan for what rivers to barrel until they come. Intuitively, our hand seems like a great BBB candidate on brick rivers.
Definitely hearts.
On blanks I'd be giving up with the negative Th blocker, as it blocks many of IP's folds. It's important that we be very selective with our bluffing combos here, as our xrF→cbT→cbRAI (on bricks) range is extremely tight.
No, we snap call with good odds and unblockers to OOP's bluffs (some AKo's and FD's). It may not seem pretty, but it will be profitable.
AT:
IP can go BBJ w/ AT, so AT is now not a bluffcatcher and has to call
T7 & T6:
They do have great blockers to the straight, however, we also negative block a lot of IP's bluffs, too
QT:
Similarly to T7 & T6, we block some likely value (in this case QQ) and block a few bluffs. Ultimately, we do a slightly better job of unblocking the bluffs w/ QT here, so we call a little more often.
Thank you very much Pinzo . Really glad to hear you are finding some EV from them :)
You, too! (Y)
Yeah really like this format. Compressed takeways / highlights /heuristic are very valuable imho. I think the possible way to make it more entertaining is the way imba did it - with the review being of recorded play and then the video paused with deep thought given where necessary. It gives natural breaks in the teaching process but the density of info is probably lower. (I realise that is a huge amount of work though).
Hi Holonomy
I agree!
I have done some of this before, following Imba's lead.
2knl series
500z series
Hi Luke, great I will check those out.
This format is supreme. You do the solver work and run through what you learned post is so beneficial. I dont need to look at you click around your screen, you can just tell me if you were right or wrong and what it suggests to do. Covering this many hands is wild, I cant believe you did the full storm of them. Around 25:00 is some of the most helpful way Ive heard you explain blockers and unblockers. There were so many gems in this tome.
Awesome feedback proverbspoker , really glad to hear this :)
Yep, happy we managed to finish them all in this video
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For me educational = entertaining. At least when you are the teacher. Please continue these videos.
That makes sense :) isnurgeld
More to come!
I like this format a lot. I'm not all that concerned with being entertained. I suck at poker and I want to stop sucking. With that being said, I do like that you have already looked at the sims and are stating the outcomes while only displaying a few sims here or there. Not showing the sim for each and every hand allows us to get through a lot more hands which is great.
7:25 I always group my bluffs by eq and blockers and use the better ones in my big sizing and worse ones in the smaller sizing if I am splitting rng. Would we prefer to have hearts or have the straight draw around the q and t for more eq and better blockers to opp prs and continuing rng to use the bigger sizing?
Is the way I group bluffs to determine bet sizing way off?
10:15 I understand why you say a2 and a3 is not to be used as a bluff, but from both our end with our xr bluff rng and pastors end with a bluff bet, a2 and a3 block 24s, 34s (24 and 34 may not be in the btn open rng 3handed) and a5. Are those combos too few to let a2 and a3 into the bluff rng?
27:30 the entire blocker/unblocker segment I believe I understood all of that conceptually. You explained it well and it was quite valuable.
46:50 if we barrel turn are we using an overbet?
Thanks Luke!
No worries SoundSpeed (Y)
To size up, we should want to have a combination of equity for ourselves, blockers to his continues and unblockers to his immediate folds. Hearts tick all boxes here.
Makes sense. The better I get at Poker, the more I think I suck at it. Haha
Good to know! I agree (Y)
If you are sizing up with your strong bluffs and down with your weaker bluffs, then your small bet range is likely struggling in EV & EQ.
Re. the bolded text, I'm not sure what you mean, sorry. Can you elaborate?
As you said, 42 and 43 are not in btn's range, so A4 will outperform A2 A3
Great :)
b70 should perform better than an OB OTT here on the 4straight runout
Hi Luke Johnson , always appreciate the time you take for responses to questions. Regarding bolded section, I believe what I mean is if we want to size up should we have more eq for ourselves as well as better blockers to our opponents continuing rng (in this case his prs)?
I suppose in general I need to work on how to categorize bluffs when splitting my rng.
Hello, great video thanks again it's awesome !
My question regarding your biggest bluff ever : when i did the sim 200deep, Pio chooses to XB near range Flop. Then Turn and River were fine as played. Any thoughts about that Flop construction where Pio doesn't care to put some money in early in the hand (I included sets in both preflop ranges) ?
Also it got me thinking, that you could be great at explaining some deep stack concepts theory wise. This kind of content is missing on the site imo.
Happy holidays !
I'm not too familiar with general IP 3bp strategies, as I play a much smaller 3b, esp at 200bb deep, sorry.
If a spot ever comes up that requires it, then I will be sure to give viewers my 2c. As for a dedicated deep play deep dive (excuse the pun!), I can think about doing it. Thanks for the idea!
Thank you! Likewise :)
Awesome format, loved it very much!
Thrilled to hear that Jakob Tøstesen !
Glad you enjoyed, more to come :)
100% agree with proverbspoker and Holonomy, they were spot on. This is one of the best videos I've ever watched on RIO. proverb make the key point - you're informed by solver work, but you don't "click through" the Pio solutions, which is often not entertaining but also not that educational because we can't memorize solver solutions. The high level heuristics are obviously great, but if you continue to do these videos you might feel like sometimes they get repetitive (e.g. which combos of 2P raise more on the flop, etc.) So one thought could be to do a video format like this, but focus on a specific spot (e.g. BUvBB cbT) and I could see that yielding a lot of really interesting content.
John Jernigan
So, you're saying that I do the same solver work beforehand, to then relay to viewers, with the difference being that the work is focused on one spot, instead of the hands played in a session? That's a cool idea!
amazing video, please make more in this format. It helps me to learn incredibly well
Awesome! Glad you enjoyed Marchese !
More to come, stay tuned :)
Loved this format. One of the best RIO videos i have seen.
Hi Amar Mehta
Brilliant, really glad to hear this! More to come :)
27.20 - 62 on Q988A
I am definitely guilty of betting bottom of range hands like 62 here sometimes. This was an important concept to learn re: only bluffing with best blockers, so thanks!
In bad river spots where we have a limited number of bluffs we can put in our range - do we always go with best blocker hands irrespective of showdown value? Would this change at all if we were in position rather than out of position?
We will always choose to bluff with the best blockers. After that, we will either choose the next best blockers, or the best unblockers (the answer to which is situation dependant). If we are doing well, we should be able to use unblockers (thereby including our 62 here). The issue here is that we are not doing well, so unblockers are no bueno.
Being IP and OOP will not matter. The only consideration is bet size.
In terms of format, I think this is a great way to make a video and with the right amount of detail for learning. I think the Becoming a boss format is my favourite as I like to know how to approach a spot overall, but this format is also great!
Thank you for your feedback matlittle !
There will be more of both formats to come. Judging by my video ratings, they are the most appreciated video formats :)
Love the format. I watch all of your videos and this one strike me the most ! Could it be possible to review similar types of sittuations ?
Ex: overbet turn hands, flush completing turn... in order to recognise some patterns :p
Awesome :) Drelza
Do you mean to do a video on CBetting Turn in SRP's?
I ment to review 10 or more hands that have 1 thing in common rather than review a bunch of interesting hands.
Fe review hands where we face a 2x pot turn, or hands where we cbet >pot, or even runnouts where we barrel range small...
Thats a nice way to divide poker into small pieces and understand certain concepts. And the idea isnt to dive deep into solver analysis (since it has been done already) but to repeat a certain spot enough time for the viewer to start recognizing patterns.
Hi Drelza
Ok, understood! Thank you for the feedback!
I am planning to do some of these using PIO2's GTO Trainer :)
Hi Luke,
At 50:39 , is QdT prefered to QoT as a call since villain probably gives up with FDs?
Qd vs Qo should be around neutral.
It would be better to have Qd on a bad river for IP, as IP would then bluff less and give up his Qd combos. However, on a good river for IP (as this is), IP should still get to bluff some Qd combos. He would still bluff Qo more than Qd, however, Qd arrives at a higher weight. Therefore, it should be roughly neutral.
Hey Luke, ive enjoyed the play and explains! but i really enjoy this style of video alot! going in detail explaining your thought process on every street is really beneficial to understanding the decisions made and what you were thinking during the hand! so really appreciate it, its been a joy going through your videos!
20:10 AT
this same scenario has happened to me, where if its a backdoor flush draw, or a straight comes in for me on the river, but the board is paired on the flop.
when the turn is check check, leading out the river small, the sim is telling us to just call vs the raise! which does seem grim! as you say! because he can have some jx or hands he can raise the river that not necessarily arent full houses. However, i assume some of the time he can have full houses that he slow played or got there on later streets. so i understand that it absolutely hates re raising again on the river. just only likes calling.
For sure villain can raise trips otr vs our block. In fact, he likely raises MORE trips than boats OTR. The problem is that he won't continue all of his trips vs our river 3b, and we need to make sure to get called at least 50% of the time by worse hands in order to value bet/raise.
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