$2.50/$5 Zoom NL Select Hand Replay
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One thing I don't understand is on the QQ hand halfway through, why do you check on the flop? The board is so draw heavy and could have hit him along with the fact there are too many scare cards later on. Surely betting would be the best option?
He called your all in on the turn not the flop so does that change the analysis if he is folding the turn if a spade comes?
last hand:
would it be better to bluff with your Ax hands because we have card removal to his calling range? If we do that then we end of bluffing too much so where do you draw the line? Or should we just bluff with bottom of our range type hands like you did?
Michael,
I don't mind leading the flop with QQ it may be the best play but I as a default I check the flop when I'm not the aggressor pf. Its important to note that while leading may be the best play in a vacuum, I need to consider how it affects my checking range, because if I lead QQ it means I won't get to realize my equity or can get bluffed off the best hand with my marginal hands, i.e. QJs JTs AK.
Jigga,
I do think he will fold the turn if a spade comes, so that is worth pointing out that in his shoes (if he's not folding) calling flop and calling any non spade is def a better line. I quickly ran the equities and QQ vs As3s,As4s,TdTc,ThTd,44,22,as5s,as6s,as7s,as8s has 33% equity if the turn is the 9c, and 26% equity ott if it is the 3c.
I still think he should be folding flop mainly because when I have a value hand is equity is 12% if its a set and 30% vs two pair compared to 40-50% vs my combo draws which means I need to bluffing quite a bit more often. I'll also add that while I didn't put 5s3s in my range or 5s6s for each of those combos I add I need to consider adding 24s T4s and t2s. Last point I'll make is that while I would fastplay 5s3s and 5s6s some of the time its not a great play 200bbs deep because my flush outs aren't clean, where 100bbs deep I could shrug get it in.
For the 4c5c hand, I think first off its worth pointing out that you should bluff when you think your opponent is going to fold, and if I'm getting called by AQ I probably shouldn't be bluffing anything OTR. That said from a game theory standpoint if we want to be balanced my value range OTR is AJ,66,ax6x,ax2x,22 which is 36 combos. Since he needs to be good 25% of the time to call I should be bluffing about 12 combos. You should never bluff river with AQ+ and you should probably be folding ott with some of your weakest aces, so I would suggest to keep your bluffing frequency under control shove river with Ax everytime X is under a J and you turned the NFD to keep your combos down. All theory aside don't forget that poker is about making money and you should only be bluffing if you think your opponent will fold.
As for a video, I'll keep my eye out for interesting hands that pop up bvb in game and when I have a few good ones I'll try and do video on it.
The 5c4c hand was very interesting. Fwiw I like the bluff without reads that villain is a huge station OTR especially as we basically have the nut low making it the best candidate for a bluff. In the end though you are really owning villain in that spot.
+1 to hearing some thoughts about incorporating limping into a sb strategy. At the limits these vids are geared towards villains are still quite highly exploitable by raising a ton but there are a few villains I would consider limping against. I may start a thread about it as I m not totally sure how to go about choosing my ranges.
As the limp strategy on SB, I do agree with the points you mentioned, but I have some others considerations, would be nice if you could talk about it.
- We are playing OOP against a very wide range a small pot, but we do have a wide range as well, playing a high SPR spot and we don´t have the initiative.
- It can be very hard to extract value when we actually have a hand, instead of just raise/4bet hands.
- We can´t exploit people who fold a ton preflop or 3bet too much as bluff.
- We need to have a very wide known of board textures and oponnent tendencies to win that pot, which make us really though to play OOP.
These are some points I would like to point, I saw that limping strategy and I´m not totally convinced about it, especially on lower limits under NL200, when people still have a ton of leaks.
Good job!
Fwiw in the "Intelligent Poker Player" the author advocates limping anything your going to play in FLHE. Its a different game obv (you can only minraise which is pretty huge) but leads me to believe perhaps its not that crazy to think that a limping strategy is strong in the right situations in NL.
Love 45s. As said beffore A3s be much nicer to analize at turn.
Cant wait for next one.
ProPokerTools does not seem to discount Combos due to the board runout. Doesnt this change his Equity with say AQ vs. ur shovingrange?
You said you might not always shove A6s on the river but always should, mainly cause you think his value hands are AK AQ. But if we want him to fold these Hands then why shove A6s? Is it purely for balance sake and because we dont exactly know if he is calling or folding AQ AK?
Just curious is your limping strategy a spin off from Sauce's strategy?
What your hud stats the bottom line?
For the 45cc hands. You put your weak axcc hands into your shoving range. Is this because we don't make it to the river with many other weaker axs hands?
For card removal wouldn't our axcc make the best river folds and other suited aces better for our bluffing and calling ranges.
Ya, I agree they should be hands I fold the majority of the time, when I mentioned them as bluffs, I mainly meant that those hands aren't strong enough to call so I could consider bluffing them. In reality I think bluffing Ax to fold out a big ace is probably too thin quite ambitious. Keep in mind I can call Ax if I think he's bluffing but I can't call 45 if he's bluffing so one advantage of shoving 45 is that I also win vs his bluffs.
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