LLinusLLove vs Trueteller
Posted by Nuno Alvarez
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Hi Nuno just wanted to tell you how much I enjoy your vids. As a 6max player that starts a ton of tables I get a ton of great insight and help with all of your videos. This one was entertaining, but I unfortunately did not get close to the amount of great tips out of this one than I do from most of your videos. Just my two cents but this format of reviewing high limit hands does not provide as much useful content for my games.
Hey balbomb thanks a lot for the kind words, I’m glad you got use out of my content as a 6max player!
I definitely understand your point and I actually agree with you. My insights may not be as useful on this type of video as they are on other formats that I’m more confident with. I would say this has to do with me just trying to analyze really complex deepstack situations that I’m not very familiar with rather than giving away a few solver approved concepts that I’m comfortable using at the tables on a daily basis.
On the other hand, a lot of people was requesting for someone to review this match and I thought I could provide you guys with useful information about it so I decided to give it a try.
Nice video!
At 43:21, i don't understand why you have given full frequency of pocket pairs below 88s? I assume 55-22 will be 3betting only at a small frequency, and might even fold to 4bets sometimes? That might have an influence on his leading strategy.
Hey Shekar.
You’re absolutely right. This was a mistake on my part copying the ranges from the PIO Preflop simulation. Luckily for us, small pocket pairs are, in theory, high frequency 3bets with this stack depth and they never fold against 4bet so I don’t think my error would have a huge influence on the output. In any case, I’m gonna run the sims again and I’ll post here the results with the correct ranges as soon as I have them. Sorry about that.
Hi everyone, here there are the correct sims:
Min 42:08 hand (Qs 9d 8c)
Min 54:45 hand (Td 7s 5h)
As you can see there's almost no difference with the ''in video sims'' given that the additional weight of the pocket pairs doesn't seem to be influencing OOP strategy that much on this two particular scenarios.
Nice video Nuno!
If I understand correctly the preflop 3bet ranges and call ranges you used where generated by PIO for deep play ? So like GTO preflop ranges ?
Thanks Bingo!
Exactly. I ran two different preflop sims on PIO with the betsizing choices of both of them in order to get this GTO preflop ranges ready to work with for this video.
Cool thx!
Yeah I was a little bit surprised to see somewhat polar 3bet range in there, I mean fractions of random offsuit, random suited garbage hands. What are your thoughts about that strategy in practice ?
Because yeah I understand it's great if you 3bet then and get a fold, this is a win for you because they are really marginal to call with anyways. But once you get called I think the postflop play-ability is kind of horrendous being OOP that I think just a lineair range works better unless villain is overfolding to 3bet's of course. But maybe its a HU thing idk id like your thoughts on this. I don't know much about the preflop GTO things, But I know snowie likes to 3bet somewhat lineair BB vs BTN in a 6max game
Great question.
In general, I’m in favor of using GTO preflop ranges. Those random offsuit combos are very profitable 3bets because they have good blockers (you will generate folds quite often) and I don’t think the postflop playability of them is that bad. In fact, if we never 3bet any offsuit hands (besides the top range) we’re going to lack bluffs in many board runouts where the flush gets there because we will hold either a flush or a very weak bluffing hand most of the time.
In conclusion, using this GTO ranges will help us to be covered on all the boards postflop and I think it’s worth our time to try to mimic them rather than play a more linear 3betting strategy.
Cool thanks yes good points I agree we need some offsuit hands to have bluffs on the flushboards indeed because we can bluff with a flush blocker indeed
Loved the format. A weekly or every other week of high stake hand breakdown would be awesome
Thanks a lot!
I agree. I’m planning on doing more of these, stay tuned!
Nice vid nuno.
I strongly desagree with you on the first hand.
We saw OTT a deviation from Llinus, you show the sim for the 2/3 size, btu we know that dépends of the sizing, the xraising strat could be affected a lot.
Also, I Simply dont think one of the bestplayer in the world "made" a mistake like that and just put 100K in a spot like that. I dont say Trueteller is doing mistakes, but Its important to see all the parameters of the hand.
I studied this hand a lot, and when you re nodlocking and trying to understand the moove, in which case is it +ev etc... There are a lot of case when this CRAI is profitable. Probably Trueteller noticed a little turn sizing tell on the turn on this situation and the shove could be profitable. And if you suspect Llinus s range to be more capped when he use this sizing ( and have a 2 or 3 betsizing in this situation, tend to let trueteller makes money.
Llinus plays very well, but he s not a robot. (maybe?)
In an other video maybe ;)
PS
sorry for the English, im improving, I hope..
Hey man, thanks. Glad you liked it.
I’m not sure if I agree here. I can definitely see Linus using this 40% sizing as an exploit vs Trueteller but I wouldn’t say that “we saw” a deviation from him here with any certainty.
I’m not saying that he made a mistake but, from what I’ve seen of his game, Trueteller is not a very GTO oriented player and it’s fairly possible he’s not in consonance with PIO solver outputs in spots like this.
I can agree with you here. I decided to not use the node lock feature on the video to keep things simple but I can certainly see that.
PS: Your english is great :)
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