NICE JOB!

I liked NL part.

Didnt like PLO part too much. First of all I think you calculated it incorrectly. You already put in 3k which covers the main pot. Lets say u have there 10% equity so you get like 1200$ out of that main pot. What matters is how much equity you have @ sidepot vs UTG. You have to put 3140$ into sidepot vs UTG. You need to get 1940$+ back from sidepot to breakeven, right? (because u get 1200$ from mainpot).

Sidepot: 3140*2=6280.
Return needed: 1940$
1940/6280=So you need to have 31%+ equity vs UTG @ sidepot to breakeven.

(sums might be slighty incorrect, but hopefully you got my point).

Please correct me if im wrong :)

Good vid! Regarding the NL hand are you really peeling all of the hands displayed in the PIO range preflop in the bb? Q8o, Q9o, JTo, K8o, Q2-Q7s, J2s, 35s, etc. Im sure the whale open limp, pro button ISO, game flow, history, etc affect your ranges in ways I can't see but I can't see too many reasons to add in the bottom of the pio range to your calling range. A lot of these hands are going to be dominated when they hit (case in point) and your position in a 3 way pot when you make a hand is going to be dicey. Clearly you're confident in your skill edge, postflop abilities, etc but can you elaborate on why these calls are profitable for you?? You mention he shouldn't be folding 2 pr to you and mah not know that (implying not too much history to be able to play these hands profitably w/ limited reads)

As an aside do you think it's necessary to overbet turn to get one pair to fold? It seemed in game you made this decision very quickly. I would think 1 pr Ax hands fold for 900-1k and the calling range isn't too affected by the extra 400 (although in this case it had the unintended result of folding out 2 pr)

Lastly, If you're ranging villian on 1 pr hands that will fold I'm assuming you're never betting this size for value in this particular spot.

Thx for the vid. Keep up the good work.

Thx for the feedback. You're correct in that I erred in the defending range. Looking back these would be some of the fringe hands you're defending: A2-A5o, K9o,Q8-Q9o,J9o,78o,K3-K6s,6Ts,34-36s,etc. As you said some of these hands you don't defend and I'm assuming you'll 3b some of these Ax/Kx hands as well (you don't show a 3b bluff range).

Do you basically treat this spot as a standard button raise/bb defend spot since the whale limp is so weak and the button iso is just as wide/if not wider than a normal button raise?

Regarding pro's line of check/back turn vs you, I'm assuming his line of thinking is you don't have many 2 pr combos as he'd expect you to 3b pre. On KQ2A your most likely hand is JT (not sure if you said you have all the JTo combos). If you have 16 JT combos and you're rarely (at least w/out history) going to just call w/ Kx/Qx (i.e. KJ/KTs/QJ/QT/Q9s) the real value in betting turn is to either a) induce (maybe a little ambitious) b) fold out your equity (not a huge concern holding AQ) or c) protect his bluffing range in the future (considering you guys don't play much together not a huge concern). I also think the exploitative turn play from you with JT is to lead turn (at least some of the time) since bluffs don't continue too often and he'll probably be checking back a lot here. On the river you have 16 JT combos and he needs to be good approximately 1/3 times to make this a call. So if he can find 8 bluffs this is a call. From his perspective (referencing 1pr range from above) you should have 33 1pr hands (assuming you never 3b any of the Kx/Qx hands pre) that can turn themselves into bluffs. Are you turning your 1pr hands into bluffs 24% of the time. It's probably pretty close (I have no clue but just assuming).

How do you view his turn check back vs a thinking pro like yourself w/ whom he has limited history? Maybe tough to objectively say now but say he fired 650 on the turn, what's your response? This would be an interesting CREV hand to look at.

Sorry for the long winded response. Good luck at the tables!

Yes I treat it as a standard BTN open spot.

KJ, QT, KT, etc I am nearly always calling turn. Folding them would be too tight and exploitable. I will also have AT, AJ A2s that AQ can get value from.
If he bet 650 on the turn I would fold Q9 but call with KJ, KT, QT, AJ, AT, A2.

River fold is terrible. But whats more interesting is turn check, versus a good solid thinking player like you who wont be calling down with AT, KT,KJ,KQ for more then 2 barrels if we decide to 3barrel AQ here, what do you think of checking turn? Do you like it?Hate it?

I think its interesting and actually pretty good. It balances our checking range on the turn pretty well and we can get you to spazz of on the river a % of the time.

This is all predicated on your opponent playing GTO which in live poker is rarely the case correct?

I'm defining "all of this" as taking a GTO style/defensive approach in live poker and thus relying on models like PIO. I understand that w/out reads that you can exploit you should employ this strategy. My counter to that is in live poker others are rarely playing GTO and I would think you'd have some exploitative reads to be able to deviate. It's surprising to me that you wouldn't have more history/reads on another live 50/100 player in the LA area.

I did have exploitable reads to go off. It was that he would expect me to be under bluffing if I overbet river and accordingly make folds he shouldn't. But realize, that we can have some reads but can't have a read in every spot.
It will often be correct for us to try to play GTO on some streets and then deviate on another street once we arrive at a spot we have a read.
For example, on flop I dont have any read whether he is cbetting perfectly, too much or too little; thus I call with Q9 because it is part of a GTO strategy to call. Turn there is no decesion given it went x x. River I identified an exploit and exercised it.
Do you see how against all but the most face up villains, understanding the GTO solution is vital to playing optimaly even vs players we have reads on?

Also think about it from this perspective. He is a live winning pro. He is going to try to make reads/exploits on me. Only one of us is going to win this exploit battle on any given action. Meaning one of us is going to be correct and one will be wrong. On river, he thought he had a read that I was under bluffing. I had the read that he would think that and accordingly over fold. Had he been right his exploitive adjustment would have outperformed GTO by a lot. But given he was wrong and I was right, his adjustment far underperformed GTO strategy. This is a successful winning poker player we are discussing. He wasn't able to get a successful read on me and it hurt his EV. His opponent, me, wasn't playing GTO, yet his best strategy was still GTO because he couldn't accurately identify exploits. Certainly, the best player will win these battles more often but there are many times I find myself against exploitable players in spots where I have no idea which way they are exploitable and accordingly try to employ GTO response.

That makes perfect sense. Very well articulated. Thanks!

Great video !! Could you do another live holdem video about preflop ranges when deep 300bb+. I know you did one about getting in 500bb with KK preflop but that was super specific. Would be great if you can discuss other more general/theoretical spots for example opening and a reg 3bets you in LP; how do you construct your ranges etc. I also saw that in one of your video on youtube Cyrus opens to 4bb utg and you say UTG-1 should be folding A4ss; in a fishy lineup which will likely go multiway and will be squeezed a very small % of the time: Can you explain why A4ss should be a fold there?

In regards to preflop theory I was thinking of of a theoretical/ exploitative approach which you generally use in the $5/10 games not necessarily a GTO approach using PIO. In regards to the A4ss when we are facing opponents that will call super wide, doesnt overflushing someone for 300bb+ overcome the negatives of calling this hand? Im speaking of your average $5/10 game where most flops go 3-4 way. Altrenatively, in a vacume would you fold that hand aswell if its opened UTG and no calls to you on the CO/HJ?