Know Your Enemy: Low Stakes Zoom PLO (part 2)
Posted by Tom Coldwell
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I think your most useful video yet, Tom. I do think the summation is the most important part. I agree that the lower the stakes, the more varied the types of players, and recognizing which camp they fall into is essential to making money. I don't know for a fact, but I imagine that as the stakes increase, the more and more players play closer to the averages for the level. (Because, as you mention, the lousy players are weeded out and can't move up.) I'm glad that someone raked through the muck and generated some data on levels that many Essential members are trying to move up from.
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Nice video
I still got two questions.
You mentioned the regulars and many nits at lower stakes, but you wasn´t very concrete about their weaknesses and leaks to exploit.
Once you identified some players as regulars did you notice any common leaks which most solid (given their limit) regulars have? And how did you exploit them?
And would you like to show us your Zoom-graph including showdown- and non-showdownwinnings?
As for nits, just don't pay them off! If they are not c-betting a lot, lead into them. If they aren't betting rivers much, don't call them (without it, obv don't fold the nuts! :p).
Oh, and stay in position!!! The biggest mistake you can make against regs is ending up continually OOP to them in pots. If you make sure to play good cards OOP against them, you'll be okay (this also requires folding some hands to 3-bets that may have okay equity against their ranges because of shit visibility - KK94r for example isn't in horrible shape against many 3-bet ranges but you're guessing so freakin' often if you play it against a 3-bet OOP that you'll just spew).
As for graph, here is what it looked like for most of the hands for the vid (doesn't include the earliest ones from before I switched exclusively to Zoom for this purpose 'cas I can't filter for Zoom across stakes so have simply date filtered. It's prolly 'cas I suck with PT4!). Works out as like 11.2bbs/100 across stakes EV adjusted (19.3 not adjusted 'cas GODMODE!!!).
I note I still lost pre-showdown which is annoying, but the majority of that (>1kbbs/2k) came during a short spell where I was testing out other stuff/playing shitty. Nonetheless, I don't think that's a bad winrate given the rake :)
Thanks for video! That's really useful guide through stats. Just one more question I wanna ask you didn't mention. What do you think about bluff play when limits increase ? I mean big river bluffs on busted draw when scary card comes? I never play PL10, but noticed that on PL25 ppl bluff more often and sometimes it looks very stupid, coz they just bluff without scary card also! They just make bluffs with no sense at all. I didn't face this a lot on PL50 tables... What's your opinion?
People certainly try more bluffs at higher stakes, that's 100% true and some of the bluffs people pull make no f***ing sense (although equally, sometimes they just hit a weird card and I pay their bluffy-looking line off). The key thing is identifying who does this and adjusting accordingly (check/jamming your good hands more, bluff-catching more etc.). That said, I would never go crazy bluff-catching - there are plenty of people in these games only betting their nut hands.
Great video, once again. Thanks for taking the time to help us micro grinders out :P. Probably the wrong place to post this and I apologise, but my holdem manager2 does not work on zoom. on the HM2 website there is an FAQ I have followed all steps and it does not work still. Has anyone else had this problem and know how I may solve this?
great video man. i was just wondering is it possible to download it or is it just for watching only
I refuse to use a hud and these videos that have so much about hud statistics are horrible for poker I hope hud is banned one day soon..is this really what poker is about ? come on guys
Tom, could you post the steal stats for 0.25/0.5 like you said you would.
Interested to know if it changes at that stake.
thanks,
Awesome video,I play 10$ PLO so was glad to see there was some low stakes content,i'll have to go back and watch the previous video
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