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Key Concepts: Checking Strong

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Peter Clarke

POSTED Aug 26, 2019

Peter Clarke aka carroters discusses the importance of playing balanced ranges and focuses specifically on checking strong hands and the best situation to do this.

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Bennobal 5 years, 6 months ago

This is an absolute brilliant video, very congruent with your content and material making it swift to comprehend too. Thanks a lot!

Peter Clarke 5 years, 6 months ago

Thanks for the kind words I'll definitely be creating more of these and plan on taking extra time with the powerpoints to make sure they're nice to watch.

Pran 5 years, 6 months ago

Just wondering, you mentioned in your book that you went to uni, what did you study? your ability to communicate technical concepts is pretty up there. Thank you so much for this awesome content. Just finished "From The Ground Up." currently reading Grinder's Manual, gonna go through the hundred hands book soon.

Deactivated User 5 years, 6 months ago

@ 7:26: "Can haz stack?" LOL

This truly is one of the better videos I've seen in a while. It takes a basic understanding of ranges and branching ranges but once that's in place, you can pick up a ton from this material.

Grouping different hands into different ranges depending upon different factors, especially your position, is really what seems to separate the men from the boys when it comes to theory here in 2019/2020.

Peter Clarke 5 years, 6 months ago

I think this is spot on. Getting the correct level of specificity makes life so much easier. Not being too precise and not being too vague.

Hummus 5 years, 6 months ago

Mr. Carrot, great video. I'm a bad 100z reg and am just wondering what you think the optimal play vs. study hours/ratio a day would be for someone wanting to move up stakes? Also how many tables would you recommend if you're just trying to move up and not trying to grind the crud out of it? Cheers.

Peter Clarke 5 years, 6 months ago

I would recommend playing some focussed sessions with just two tables of ZOOM where you frequently sit in and out to review hands, run solver sims etc. For your volume sessions, your probably better off 3-tabling for now instead of 4 provided that you feel comfortable with that.

In terms of study/play I think it's fine to play more than you study but I wouldn't go less than 25% study and 75% play.

Arabella 5 years, 6 months ago

Awesome video. Regarding the last hand on 974cc flop. I noticed we are doing a lot of mixing between the two bet sizing with almost our entire betting range. What are some of the criteria for favoring the small sizing and what makes us favor the bigger sizing?

Peter Clarke 5 years, 6 months ago

Nutted hands that unblock his calling range will favour the bigger bet as will the more nut-potential rich bluffs. Hands like JJ and QQ that are more vulnerable will favour the bigger bet.

Hands like Ace-High, smaller pairs and top pair poor kicker will favour the smaller bet as will some of the less nutted bluffs.

Of course, you can't just apply this in an all or nothing way which is why PIO is balancing by mixing different hands into different sizes.

belrio42 5 years, 6 months ago

Great video as usual. I liked your explanation of turn checks when range betting flop.

I have a question about the last hand (KK). I am curious about the overbet on the river on a double-paired board. The old thinking which I learnt (pre-solver) was that one should generally choose smaller sizes on paired (and double paired) boards. Is this thinking outdated? Do solvers prefer overbets here?

Peter Clarke 5 years, 6 months ago

On the flop, on paired boards, we prefer smaller sizing because Villain's range is still uncapped (especially if he's a big blind caller in a 2BP and especially where the paired card is relevantly high like a 7 or higher).

In this spot, we have a very different situation where Villain shouldn't have much 7x after checking back the turn, and the 4 is too low to feature often in a range that opens HJ and calls a 3-Bet. For this reason, we have an uncapped vs. capped advantage and a solver will like over-betting here.

My next key concepts video is on over-betting so stay tuned for that.

Pran 5 years, 6 months ago

Peter Clarke For your next topic could you cover c-betting out of position? I haven't been able to find a video on ROI that covers this extensively. In particular, how do you separate your c-betting range from your check-raising range and check-calling range oop as PFR? I think this would be an extremely useful video.

RioZg 5 years, 6 months ago

Your great fan here. Awesome video as expected. You set yourself the bar very high but still manage to outjump it.

I am a tard with a flawed thought process but I really really struggle to see how in the last hand on 7 9s 4s 7 4 board villain caps himself by checking on the turn.

The basis for my doubt is my own mental process as well as experience from the pool.

I would almost certainly:
1.) check 99 with the idea
1a) villain has KK, AA I am going to get it anyway on the river
1b) villain has AK, QJs, A3s he might get the second best hand and pay off handsomely
1c) villan has the same random hands as above but decides it is worth a bluff on the river on blanks
1d) villain checks river and now I bet and expect to get called fairly often by A highs, sometimes even K highs

2.) check half of the time 75s - 79s if they'd be in my range (probably if I saw Peter with any decent 3-bet stat)
Same logic as in point 1.

3.) 4 coming on the river is also not insignificant because it again pairs one of the flop call cards like A4 although I agree it is a small subset of hands.

Peter Clarke 5 years, 5 months ago

Thanks.

I'd say to this that 99 is hardly any combos so even if it technically uncaps his range we will have far more hands of the class that beats 9x than he does. This is partially from pre-flop. 7x is also very few combos and is likely to bet at a high frequency on the turn.

I'm not saying that literally this Villain caps himself, but that most of the pool will be very capped here (see it as a spectrum of cappedness not a black and white, yes or no thing.) In GTO my range is much less uncapped than mine and this is enough for shove to become a viable option.

JPiva 5 years, 5 months ago

one of the best videos that i ever saw in this site!!

The way that you explain PIO results is very very good.

Archer1066 5 years, 3 months ago

Hey Peter Clarke
Just a thought process check please:
36m: The board gives Villan nut advantage as we don't have the set combo's and the equities haven't been equalised loads as it doesn't connect with his range a lot (so airing towards smaller sizing) we still retain RA with all the overs so I want to bet pretty often. I would therefore have range bet, which is clearly wrong from PIO. Where abouts is my thought process going wrong?

P.S great video like the added symbols I think it helps for visualisation and remembering

OMGIsildurrrrman12 5 years, 3 months ago

Wow, Peter Clarke - All of your videos are highly informative, and your course "From The Ground Up" is worth every penny, but there was something about this one (not related to the visuals) that really shined. You compressed a lot of information into a small amount of time, but you also unpacked and explained everything quite thoroughly. I just got the feeling that you really wanted us to understand what you were teaching, as if you were personally invested in our success. That is something that is very rare and very much appreciated. Well done, my friend. Well done.

TimKin 4 years, 11 months ago

Thanks for great video! Would love seeing more like this!
I have a question regarding the last hand (KK): what if hypothetically villain would bet (small/big/overbet) the turn after we checked OOP rather than check behind as he did?

BALANCEDLUCK 4 years, 9 months ago

Carroter annoyed me years ago ha Now I follow his content religiously! Looking fresh in this vid too.. Funny how things change . Really like the guy now, love the content and would even be the ideal coach for me at this point. I wouldn't have bet on me typing this 2 years ago. I don't know what to say. Chuffed

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