YES PLEASE DO THE ADJUSTMENT TYPE SERIES THAT YOU MENTIONED AT THE END.
Great stuff as usual, unfortunate that the guy didn't stick around for more footage. I think glossing over the more trivial spots and focusing on the meta & adjustments to each player type is absolutely the most beneficial for people like myself trying to learn mid-stakes.
I really really really like this video style. This has been the best and most beneficial video for me that I've ever watched since it is very similar to the action that I play on a day to day basis and I can check my lines vs yours and write down the spots I need to adjust. Thanks so much for the video!
2:30 why pay off with AQ on AK7dd9x when we have every 2 pair+ hand and combo draw? If he's straight forward and nitty he shouldn't be bluffing boards that are much better for our range.
I didn't call because I thought I had to, it just appeared like a line that would be unbalanced towards bluffs because my perceived range looks very polar.
If your perceived range is polar, wouldn't that make jamming for 2.5 pot bad unless your range is really, really air heavy? And even then... we have better hands to call with, and just because villain could be bluffing with a decent amount of hands with zero showdown value on the turn doesn't mean that we should auto-include them into villains turn jamming range. QJd, QTd, 8Td, JTd, 68d are the most obvious examples, but even those wont all be just shoved all the time... and that's only 5 combos. I don't think many people are just going to jam with say, Q2d, or JdTc. If you have some reason to think that villain is really out of line here then I guess we can justify a call, but we're giving the villain a lot of credit to be able to make a pretty advanced play in which we are calling off with one pair when our opponent is overbet jamming against our polar overbet. Seems like a stretch vs most.
To elaborate a bit - in this specific spot villain's best possible value hand is 77, followed by A9/A7/K9/etc. The vast majority of what he reps with a turn raise is 2pr given that he can only have one set. That said, I thought my perceived value range when using this sizing was going to be 2pr+, which would making shoving a hand like K9 for value quite bad.
If the combos he's repping for value are simply 77 (or maybe A7+ for argument's sake), it's much easier for the range I'm up against to include too many draws for me to fold. It seems I applied too much of my own thought process to his ranges here, because the more polar someone is the more likely I am not to raise them with anything, but I don't regret my decision to call and even after looking at it in pokerstove I'd make this call again against an unknown player.
Is shoving K9 rly that bad???? If he would call he would have low visibility on many rivers ( low r becase oop + you could have many draws, value bet very nice vs his hand) and you make the pot big. If your range is AQ+ , fd, eosd, than he has 64% eq. I understand that you propably would split your range to more sizing but even vs 2p+,T-high fd+,oesd he has 60%. How would you play his range?
With a number as high as 64% you're talking about the equity of K9 vs my betting range rather than the equity of K9 vs my range that calls a shove (my entirevalue betting range, in this case).
Poker is so hard. The AQ hand where you had a real great strategy that would be effective 90% of the time but for when he turns two-pair. Your strategy is advanced and a little complicated in the sense that it became tough to fold AQ in game. I'm not sure it was a mistake, given your strategy was to lower your value range threshold to over bet in order to exploit the opponent. I guess it depends on whether or not you think what you are trying to exploit there is his tendency to call OB turns too light or that he will reshove a too bluff heavy polarized range as a spazzy response. Oh well, 50bb down the drain. Luckily, he made more than 50bb worth of mistakes going forward, but it goes to show that as the better player you can be put into tougher spots where you make more mistakes relative to your opponent based on the run outs. IOW, you could almost be playing two different games.
IMO, I like over-betting the flop as opposed to the turn in that scenario.
Anyways, take care and of course I like your videos.
Thanks for the thoughts on this - I didn't really expect a shove when I decided to bet that size (I don't really expect much of any turn c/r on this board) and just had to react to it. I do think it usually gets me an extra big bet against Kx and Ax which is a large portion of his preflop range when he's playing tight.
when a unknown shoves in a card that is not a huge pivot (no fd/bdfd/sd) in equities range vs range I rather fold my AQ on that situation. amazing video and adjustment. if I am not wrong this guy has a account here. on the q3 hand I thought he had j9. poor me.
please give kev a lifetime contract. this adjustment series would be awesome.
I've enjoyed your previous HU vids, but I think this was pretty dull because the hands in the footage seemed pretty standard (=you had a lot of hands and it's rarely wrong to bet those). And even if there's something noteworthy to talk about some basic spots in greater depth, it's hard to do with a live play & commentary.
edit: Is your HUD + pop ups for sale? pm me if you want to negotiate a deal, I am willing to spend money or perhaps trade HUDs. I spent about 20 hours building my HUD by I have a slightly different layout (more stats shown without popups and lots of color coding) but haven't put time into pop ups~
Fold to steal / Steal / 3bet / Fold to 3bet / 4bet / Fold to 4bet VPIP / PFR / Agg Factor / Agg Freq / WTSD (# hands)
RS (resteal): 3bet / Fold to 3bet CB: Flop cbet / Turn cbet / River cbet FtCB: Fold to Flop cbet / Fold to Turn cbet / Fold to River cbet
It's a 6max HUD with a detailed positional popup, so there is some redundancy in HU (like the resteal stats) and some extraneous information or lines that don't get used. This HUD wasn't designed by me and the owner does sell a newer version of it so I wouldn't be able to trade but can certainly get you in touch with him.
Thanks Kevin! Is WTSD a relevant stat? It seems like both players are going to have the same WTSD since whenever one goes to showdown the other does too.
Yeah I never really use that one, but even if we have the same WTSD during this match it's slightly relevant to know if we've been going to showdown more or less often than average.
I never understood how could WTSD ever be important in HU since we both are going to the showdown together. I guess it is more important by looking at it on average for HU over X number of hands. Great video, more barewire!! :)
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YES PLEASE DO THE ADJUSTMENT TYPE SERIES THAT YOU MENTIONED AT THE END.
Great stuff as usual, unfortunate that the guy didn't stick around for more footage. I think glossing over the more trivial spots and focusing on the meta & adjustments to each player type is absolutely the most beneficial for people like myself trying to learn mid-stakes.
Great video. Love the in depth reviews, but a nice change of pace.
I really really really like this video style. This has been the best and most beneficial video for me that I've ever watched since it is very similar to the action that I play on a day to day basis and I can check my lines vs yours and write down the spots I need to adjust. Thanks so much for the video!
this is the nutzzzzz
2:30 why pay off with AQ on AK7dd9x when we have every 2 pair+ hand and combo draw? If he's straight forward and nitty he shouldn't be bluffing boards that are much better for our range.
I didn't call because I thought I had to, it just appeared like a line that would be unbalanced towards bluffs because my perceived range looks very polar.
If your perceived range is polar, wouldn't that make jamming for 2.5 pot bad unless your range is really, really air heavy? And even then... we have better hands to call with, and just because villain could be bluffing with a decent amount of hands with zero showdown value on the turn doesn't mean that we should auto-include them into villains turn jamming range. QJd, QTd, 8Td, JTd, 68d are the most obvious examples, but even those wont all be just shoved all the time... and that's only 5 combos. I don't think many people are just going to jam with say, Q2d, or JdTc. If you have some reason to think that villain is really out of line here then I guess we can justify a call, but we're giving the villain a lot of credit to be able to make a pretty advanced play in which we are calling off with one pair when our opponent is overbet jamming against our polar overbet. Seems like a stretch vs most.
To elaborate a bit - in this specific spot villain's best possible value hand is 77, followed by A9/A7/K9/etc. The vast majority of what he reps with a turn raise is 2pr given that he can only have one set. That said, I thought my perceived value range when using this sizing was going to be 2pr+, which would making shoving a hand like K9 for value quite bad.
If the combos he's repping for value are simply 77 (or maybe A7+ for argument's sake), it's much easier for the range I'm up against to include too many draws for me to fold. It seems I applied too much of my own thought process to his ranges here, because the more polar someone is the more likely I am not to raise them with anything, but I don't regret my decision to call and even after looking at it in pokerstove I'd make this call again against an unknown player.
Is shoving K9 rly that bad???? If he would call he would have low visibility on many rivers ( low r becase oop + you could have many draws, value bet very nice vs his hand) and you make the pot big. If your range is AQ+ , fd, eosd, than he has 64% eq. I understand that you propably would split your range to more sizing but even vs 2p+,T-high fd+,oesd he has 60%. How would you play his range?
With a number as high as 64% you're talking about the equity of K9 vs my betting range rather than the equity of K9 vs my range that calls a shove (my entirevalue betting range, in this case).
Kevin,
Poker is so hard. The AQ hand where you had a real great strategy that would be effective 90% of the time but for when he turns two-pair. Your strategy is advanced and a little complicated in the sense that it became tough to fold AQ in game. I'm not sure it was a mistake, given your strategy was to lower your value range threshold to over bet in order to exploit the opponent. I guess it depends on whether or not you think what you are trying to exploit there is his tendency to call OB turns too light or that he will reshove a too bluff heavy polarized range as a spazzy response. Oh well, 50bb down the drain. Luckily, he made more than 50bb worth of mistakes going forward, but it goes to show that as the better player you can be put into tougher spots where you make more mistakes relative to your opponent based on the run outs. IOW, you could almost be playing two different games.
IMO, I like over-betting the flop as opposed to the turn in that scenario.
Anyways, take care and of course I like your videos.
Thanks for the thoughts on this - I didn't really expect a shove when I decided to bet that size (I don't really expect much of any turn c/r on this board) and just had to react to it. I do think it usually gets me an extra big bet against Kx and Ax which is a large portion of his preflop range when he's playing tight.
Loved it MORE MORE MORE MORE
54o at end i probably chk call this flop
I think I like your idea in this particular spot, that should work pretty well.
ty :). we get to bluff club rivers repping aceofclubs amazingly well and he can also barrel when we hit a straight - he'll be like WTF 54 lol
also with aq i much prefer an easy 3 streets. slightly thin but good none the less. his k9 shv is god awfull lol i love bum regs.
lennie is a LHE mid/highstakes boss, didn't know he played NL at all, but from knowing both of you this vid will be pretty sweet for sure !
when a unknown shoves in a card that is not a huge pivot (no fd/bdfd/sd) in equities range vs range I rather fold my AQ on that situation. amazing video and adjustment. if I am not wrong this guy has a account here. on the q3 hand I thought he had j9. poor me.
please give kev a lifetime contract. this adjustment series would be awesome.
I've enjoyed your previous HU vids, but I think this was pretty dull because the hands in the footage seemed pretty standard (=you had a lot of hands and it's rarely wrong to bet those). And even if there's something noteworthy to talk about some basic spots in greater depth, it's hard to do with a live play & commentary.
LOLOL U sure do hit a lot of cards
this cant be real..
nice fish there
That's not a fish, most likely a winning heads up bum hunter from the looks of it.
So not far from being a fish.
Many, many plays that are terrible against balanced opponents are completely fine against unbalanced opponents.
Great video, do you think you could quickly outline your HUD stats?
Top box:
Fold to steal? / Steal % / 3bet / ??? / ???
VPIP / PFR / Agg factor / ?? / ??? (# hands sample)
And for the bottom box what does RS mean?
edit: Is your HUD + pop ups for sale? pm me if you want to negotiate a deal, I am willing to spend money or perhaps trade HUDs. I spent about 20 hours building my HUD by I have a slightly different layout (more stats shown without popups and lots of color coding) but haven't put time into pop ups~
Fold to steal / Steal / 3bet / Fold to 3bet / 4bet / Fold to 4bet
VPIP / PFR / Agg Factor / Agg Freq / WTSD (# hands)
RS (resteal): 3bet / Fold to 3bet
CB: Flop cbet / Turn cbet / River cbet
FtCB: Fold to Flop cbet / Fold to Turn cbet / Fold to River cbet
It's a 6max HUD with a detailed positional popup, so there is some redundancy in HU (like the resteal stats) and some extraneous information or lines that don't get used. This HUD wasn't designed by me and the owner does sell a newer version of it so I wouldn't be able to trade but can certainly get you in touch with him.
Thanks Kevin! Is WTSD a relevant stat? It seems like both players are going to have the same WTSD since whenever one goes to showdown the other does too.
Yeah I never really use that one, but even if we have the same WTSD during this match it's slightly relevant to know if we've been going to showdown more or less often than average.
I never understood how could WTSD ever be important in HU since we both are going to the showdown together. I guess it is more important by looking at it on average for HU over X number of hands. Great video, more barewire!! :)
Loved this format
Please do more like this, best hu video I've seen on RIO
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