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$10/$20 HU vs muumipoiss (part 1)

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Kevin Rabichow

POSTED Jun 22, 2014

Kevin reviews a heads up session that he played $10/$20 against a regular on two tables.

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redvulture61 10 years, 10 months ago

Question completely off topic from the video. Is it true you use to play HUSNGs back in the day? 


Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 9 months ago

I was pretty unsuccessful at them, but yes. When FTP was around pre-black friday I played the $100-500 deepstacks and some turbos - I didn't play a whole lot of them on Stars. I'd say I was more so an active member in the HUSNG community than I was an HUSNG reg. 

JMTeach1 10 years, 10 months ago

Hello,

In min 12:00 24s again X-R, you said that here we can continue with K5, K4. But here how many value combos does he represent? K6 maybe, what else? we block 2x, 45. Is it that crazy to think that because of card removal effects he is more wieghted towards bluffs than value hands?, In my opinion he has more bluffs than anything else.

Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 9 months ago

I'm not totally sure how wide he's going to bluff here...is he really going to c/r bluff with hands like A4/A5 when they beat most of my bluffs? Some weak flush draws could c/r but I'd disagree that he's going to have more bluffs than value hands in this spot. He's not only representing hands that filled on the turn, but also hands that trapped flop and want to raise on a drawy turn (22,33,K2,K3). Also, keep in mind that to continue my hand on the turn I have to face a larger bet on the river somewhat often and dodge the equity of his bluffs, it's pretty difficult for a hand as weak as mine to show a profit against his line. 

JMTeach1 10 years, 9 months ago

My intention is not to call, cause many river hearts our equity and I was thinking in push, punish his bluffs and some equity to improve again the stronge part.

Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 9 months ago

Ignoring the fact that I don't have a shoving range here, we can do some math to see how often he has to be bluffing for us to 3bet in this spot. First I ran a quick stove against what I'd expect his value range to be and got 16.9% equity for our hand when called. I'm assuming he never calls with a bluff (some kind of draw). 

In this spot we've got to shove a total of $1802.73, the current pot we stand to win is $1132.20 and the total pot when called is $4221.56. If x is our required fold equity, the breakeven equation is:

0 = x(1132.20) + (1-x)(-1802.73 + (.169)(4221.56))

Rearrange this and we get x ~ 49%

I gave him a value range of  { 33-22, K6s, 63s, 54s, K6o, K3o-K2o } which is a total of 33 combos, so unless muumipoiss is bluffing 32+ combos here, our shove loses us money. It's pretty unreasonable for him to find that many combos of just heart draws (he'll be c/c some if not most of them), so we have to start adding some club draws or hands like A4/A5/Q4s/Q5s as possible bluffs for him. Meanwhile, if we start to assume he has this big number of weak bluffs in his range in order to make shoving profitable, calling is becoming an increasingly profitable option...

Rapha Nogueira 10 years, 9 months ago

This video is very, very good. Kevin, I will take a few hours every week to get into HU games (cash and sng) and I would like to hear from what guys you have seen videos that you liked most on HUSNG.com and maybe others sites. I am not looking right now for private coaching, but certainly in a short period of time I will contact you. 


OTwenty 10 years, 9 months ago

very good video :)

one point on the audio, it seems like when you don't talk the audio goes mute and it is pretty annoying especially when using headphones. If you recorded in allot of takes just edit a steady white noise under the wholl thing, may sound weird but makes the audio sound way more smooth. 

Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 9 months ago

Thanks for letting me know. I'm not sure exactly what happened because I usually do these in one take but I'll pass the information along to the editing guys. 

soggybottoms 10 years, 9 months ago

the hand where you had 97 in 3 bet pot. on the J turn. What hands are you check calling the turn with? and what would be your thought process going into the river against this opponent.  Awesome video. 

Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 9 months ago

I'd be checking all my ATs/AQ/AK combos which will certainly c/c, some strong draws like KQc and probably my flushes as well. Against some players I will still want a betting range on this turn but I don't think it's always necessary to have one. 

On the river I'd assume he's going to bet blanks with a value range of Jx+ (which is pretty much his turn value range as well) and probably only bet club rivers with the Kc or better. My range is very Ax heavy once I c/c and he's quite aware of this - I have no great option other than to protect my c/c range by trapping whenever possible and call some of my Ax if I think his bluff range is sufficiently wide. 

luizinhomac 10 years, 9 months ago

@27:25 why didnt you consider to turn your hand into a bluff having a nut blocker ?

Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 9 months ago

I definitely considered it but didn't elaborate in the video for whatever reason. I think given the action I'm not often going to have a strong enough hand to shove here, I can basically only have J8 or 99, both of which will sometimes raise turn. I think in the interest of not bluffing too much JT won't make the cut here for me, I'd rather be bluffing with an 8 blocker.

R G 10 years, 9 months ago

You started this match with saying muumi plays reasonably fast, but in your decision making you seem to quite often put emphasis on the timing of his action, there might be a bit of a bias here where you seem to naturally use timing tell population reads for someone who plays much faster than the population in general. That being said, awesome video!

Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 9 months ago

That's a really good observation, you're probably right. I can certainly make note when muumi doesn't make a quick decision, but I shouldn't be looking too much into the times he does. 

luizinhomac 10 years, 9 months ago

thanks Kevin.. another question, @42:22 how do you like a flop check raise given how big our backdoors are which will allow us to profitably barrel on multiple runouts? i feel that check calling flop n turn will often leave us too vulnerable out of position


Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 9 months ago

I thought this hand was slightly too strong - I'm not often calling turn but it seems like a fine flop c/c. I don't think a c/r would be bad but my frequency of c/r this flop is pretty low.

malakastyle 10 years, 9 months ago

Ei Kevin. In the last hand with AJ in pot 4betting, you shove the river with stairs in 9TQxK. ¿That hands your think that they go you to pay the push? In his range there is not 99 neither TT since these hands probably no 4bet and if they do it put 2barrel. QK Neither this because it does call to the 3bet. There is not any hand that pay you the shove that was not the J And this the stackoff equal with the check. KK Is the only hand that pays you the push and think that it goes bet in front of your check. In my opinion check To induce is the best option no? Thanks, good video :)

Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 9 months ago
I think this is a spot we want to bet, because villain has very few straights and as a result will have a very hard time creating much of a betting range. On the flip side, we have a lot of straights and also plenty of hands that might be interested in bluffing. The sizing is debatable and I think I prefer something much smaller.
hakunamatata 10 years, 9 months ago

Could you give us some inside when you bet bottom pair ? what do you consider when choosing to check a hand without a showdown as pfr?

Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 9 months ago
I'd rather bet with hands that will work better as bluffs on future streets, and I'd rather check with hands that are more likely to get to showdown and win. Often times those are the same hands, so it doesn't really help, but it does help decide which bottom pairs to bluff with if I have to choose some, or pick out which players to never bother bluffing bottom pair against.
lettu 10 years, 8 months ago

Excellent video!

You mentioned that you were going over some hands later
with CREV. I think most interesting ones here were:

The 98s around 38:20, whether to bet or check the turn.

AJo in 4b pot near the end and finding a good river betsize.

I think you did a good job talking about those hands, but those seem like complicated spots that would warrant some CREV analysis.


Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 8 months ago

Thanks for the suggestions! I've already recorded two videos for this, but if they get good feedback and enough people want to see more hands from this match I'll consider these.

Zrebna 10 years, 6 months ago

Hey, cool vid^^


Why are you ~2.5xing the button in general, instead of the old good 2x?

Is it cause at your stakes ppl defend likely better vs 2x than s. 2.5x?


And in all spot where you C/C a cbet OTF and then 1/5th potsize underlead an ace-turn - why you have choosen this sizeing?

I understand that leading here somewhat balanced is nice cause the ace is way better for your range, but when you range is so much stronger now, then fundamentally a larger sizeing would make more sense?


Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 6 months ago

I don't like to open the bottom 10% of hands unless my opponent folds too much pre, so I think it makes sense to raise a larger size with a button range that's a bit stronger. I'd raise even bigger if I was planning to fold more or limp sometimes. 

The 1/5 pot size intends to let me lead my whole range, I'd be leading larger if I was only betting value hands that wanted a lot of money in the pot. There was a thread that discussed this spot in more detail in the forums, I think it's linked in the comments of one of my videos. 

S.M.S. 10 years, 1 month ago

Excellent videos, Kevin.
Don`t post comments usually since you explain your thoughts process quite thoroughly.

But ~46:30 left table JThh on KK6h4J
I think tunr could go either way since turn card added equity to your connectors/gappers (which means it probably was optimistic to expect him to fold A-high flop floats when you bet so small), but didnt help your actual hand at all. But thing which I havent understood is the reason why have you checked rivered top pair after dbl-barreling your hand?
I mean there`re really few Jx you come to the river that way thus your triple barreling range still should be perceived as Kx+ (maybe some QQ+) and missed low draws.
Is it bc you thought J otr hits a lot of his floats (AJ, QJ??)?

Have you expected him to fold many Qx vs small cbet?

Thanks.

Kevin Rabichow 10 years, 1 month ago

To be honest I really hate this check I made with JT, I'm not really sure what I was doing. My best guess is that I was new at using this bet sizing line and didn't realize how strong JT was in this spot on the river. I'd vbet for around 60% pot here.

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