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Jono Crute

POSTED Jan 02, 2013

Jono kicks off his Stars Bigger $109 series by reviewing interesting spots from the early and middle stages.

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Aleksandra ZenFish 12 years, 2 months ago
Im somehow sure i posted a question but it doesnt appear in questions so ill post again.
Very nice video, thank You very much.
I have a question regarding AQ o shove allin over bar-bar9999 4 betting you.
Did you allin because in previous hand you 3 betted as well, and you thought bar-bar is 4 betting you with weaker range because he put you on weaker range cause your 3 bet frequency, or you would shove allin without previous hand history.
I have little experience and understanding of 4 betting and 5 betting, so i would appreciate little bit more of your thoutgh process in this spot - what did you expect AQ to be good against, and by your experience do people get into 4 bets with weaker holdings, or it was this hand in particular you opted for allin because hand histories developement.
Thanks
Jono Crute 12 years, 2 months ago
My plan once I 3bet here was always to 3bet/5bet all in, otherwise I would probably just peel with such a strong hand unless I felt he was the type to call lots of 3bets with weak hands and 4bet very rarely. It's not really so much about worrying about what it will be good against etc. and more about us having significant fold equity and good equity vs his calling range when he does call. As you say it's to do with history etc.
JimyT 12 years, 2 months ago
At 17min mark with the KK hand where BB defends, then c/c, c/r...

You understandably decide not to fold on the turn, explaining that he has very few value combos...what I don't understand is why you don't just shove? Seems like a lot of his hands to do this with could easily be hands that picked up a flushdraw, like A5cc, 9Tcc, TJcc etc. Are we not better off forcing him to stack off with these on the turn (as well as his overplayed Qx) rather than getting to the river?

It seems extremely unlikely he will continue bluffing on the river when u flat turn and his river shove offers u 3:1 on a call...
Jono Crute 12 years, 2 months ago
I understand everything you say here Jimy, like you say it's good for us to just get it in good here vs his range but I still feel like people can bluff jam river, for example we can have turned a draw here ourselves and peel and fold when we brick rather than jam.
chrifeq 12 years, 1 month ago
@430 do you agree with murtazin's line of c/c'ing the turn and river or do you bet 3 streets with AQ? thx
Jono Crute 12 years, 1 month ago
Its a tricky spot because everyone's range is strengthened a lot by the fact that flop action is multiway. I think betting for value is going to be better overall though even though ruin is a good reg who isnt peeling a tonne of worse Ax pre, but he doesnt have loads of floats either and you allow his AJ/Axs to get to showdown much easier
TStar 12 years ago
Hey dude. Just wondering would you be more inclined to 15k/fold the last hand of the video as opposed to jamming if you had a hand with slightly less equity or are you jamming or folding always there? Also, thoughts on just jamming over the 3bet in the 55 hand?
Ozzy 11 years, 10 months ago

@13:40 w/QQ - What's ur range in this spot? QQ+, AKs?

@17:20 w/KK - Would you ever consider calling turn to fold on any non-king river vs competent player? It's pretty tough play actually, but our call on turn (with SPR=0.6) looks so strong, that decent player should never bluff here.

@21:00 w/QQ - lol @ guy calling off 50bb's with 99. And he's a regular with big profit :|

Last hand w/A6s - pretty huge shove here, did you consider making it like 15k-18k, like LoneHixx did on you earlier? Which play do you think is better in such spots? Are you ever balancing that big of a 5bet shove? I feel like you'd never play top of your range this way (it's tough to exploit, ofc, but you're weakening your 5bet click-it-back range this way, which without hands like A6s gonna be pretty nutted).


adavius griffin 11 years, 10 months ago

@13:40 QQ. with as shallow as russ is do you think flatting could also be a reasonable playing giving him the odds to call with a hand we most likely have beat? if he does shove we would then be able to close the action by shoving assuming rux flats. would this be incorrect to play the hand this way? by shoving we give russ a chance to play his hand correctly. call better/fold worse no?

ShanerG 9 years, 8 months ago

At 17 mins with KK do some people actually raise there with a draw or with AQ? It looks like they would for sure have to be raising with AQ for the call to be profitable but just not sure how often someone would do that cause it's tough to get value from much worse often IMO and not much to protect against.

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